Wide Reciever Screen

mattdouthat · 10-18-2005, 06:04 PM

Wow I saw them throw that screen to Moss and I was like not again that play never works very well then all pf a sudden Moss is gone and I was like god I love that play. I know plenty of us have trashed that play these last years but when exucuted right that play was beautiful.

RedskinRat · 10-18-2005, 06:43 PM

When it works it's a thing of beauty, however the other 150 times......

gusbus · 10-18-2005, 07:03 PM

I would like to see a screen thrown to Portis out of the backfield. I don't think they have run that play all season. It would get Portis out in the open with blockers in front of hi. Look what Priest did with it.

BigSKINBauer · 10-18-2005, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gusbus

I would like to see a screen thrown to Portis out of the backfield. I don't think they have run that play all season. It would get Portis out in the open with blockers in front of hi. Look what Priest did with it.

they threw a sorta screen to portis in the last game right? I think it was the one where he caught it at the right and had a couple blockers ready for him and they picked up their blocks but he tripped over the air and fell down. It is wierd he always is tripping

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STPainmaker · 10-18-2005, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gusbus

I would like to see a screen thrown to Portis out of the backfield. I don't think they have run that play all season. It would get Portis out in the open with blockers in front of hi. Look what Priest did with it.

I have said this on multiple posts in the last month. We don't design enough pure screens for CP. We pass to him as like a 5th choice on the checkdown after the tackle eligible. I mean you only need run a designed screen 4 or 5 times a game and teams cannot just blitz you to death b/c it is a play designed to punish over pursuit. It trains the defense early that if they go after us they potentially could get burned. It obviously want stop them from coming after us but it plants a seed in the back of their head to keep contain.

Gmanc711 · 10-18-2005, 07:49 PM

Everyone just has to do their assignments in terms of blocking, and the play is great. The time I hate the play is when they throw it into one on one coverage and theres no blockers, then I think its a worthless play.

jhold4th · 10-18-2005, 07:54 PM

I remember the swing pass working very well with Betts and Cartwright when SS ran the show.

The few times they did it was sweet.

saden1 · 10-18-2005, 08:17 PM

I've seen plenty of grumbling about the WR screen play and I don't know why people hate it. It will pick you up 3 yards if nothing else and if you catch the defense blitzing or CB 10 yards off it's has a potential home run play. Not only that but if you do it a number of times there is a potential that the CB will creep up and your WR can go deep and catch a bomb.

Put me down as one that has always been a fan WR screens...

BigSKINBauer · 10-18-2005, 08:37 PM

the thing is that we are now getting so much cushion that the other teams are practically telling us to do it. Last year the screen never worked but Moss has just so much speed that people start to fall down as he runs by them. Maybe it will start working better but it as good as a decent run so why not do some screens. The only thing is the screen makes the defense play closer and closer as it is run more and more, as the other teams last year played close enough we couldn't get the run going and i feel the stupid 1 yard and screen passes were doing us in. maybe this year playing up close just won't be an option with our speed

saskin · 10-18-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mattdouthat

Wow I saw them throw that screen to Moss and I was like not again that play never works very well then all pf a sudden Moss is gone and I was like god I love that play. I know plenty of us have trashed that play these last years but when exucuted right that play was beautiful.

Lol, I was thinking the same thing and then Moss just hit the jets and I jumped out of my chair and was yellling and screaming and clapping....

VTSkins897 · 10-18-2005, 10:22 PM

the WR screen is a good play. it, to me is the passing equivalent of a running play. it's gonna get you a few yards and i puts the ball in the hands of one of the fastest players in the NFL.

there are some who when as soon as they see its a pass play, feel that it shud be a bomb or something. this is stupid. if anything beyond what i said earlier, the WR screen keeps the cb on their toes, forces them to make a tackle, and sets up other plays in the offensive arsenal.

so stand by the wr screen and dont be one of "those" fans...

hail_2_da_skins · 10-19-2005, 01:54 PM

Watching Santana Moss blaze past defenders was the prettiest sight since he toasted Roy Williams of the Cowgirls. I can't remember getting that excited by one play in a long time. The Brunnel to Moss connection is wonderful. I really like the Brunnel to Cooley connection also. If only Patten or Thrash would step up.

memphisskin · 10-19-2005, 06:03 PM

I still hate the wide receiver screen. The reason it blows up so often with us before is because teams were playing so close to the line that the defense was playing so tight to the line. It is still feast or famine, I don't mind one or two a game but it can also blow up on you, witness Peerless Price and his -1 yards receiving vs the Skins.

I'd like to see more attempts to get Portis out in space, use him more like Ladanian Tomlinson instead of John Riggins. Why are we not swinging more passes to CP, he should be the one dominating our offense and not Brunell. There's no excuse as to why Portis hasn't reached the end zone this year, and more than turnovers, more than cutting down the wideout screens, and more than even playing LaVar we've got to figure out how to get Portis into the end zone. Once we do, then we'll have a complete offense and be a threat to make the playoffs. Brunell can only carry us for so long, we've got to start riding Portis if we want to be a playoff team.

EternalEnigma21 · 10-19-2005, 12:00 AM

You know, I don't remember what thread it was in, but I started talking about screen passes and I got reamed for it. Quite a few people were telling me that we don't run screen passes under Joe Gibbs system, they're only quick hitches. Where are those guys at?

STPainmaker · 10-19-2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

You know, I don't remember what thread it was in, but I started talking about screen passes and I got reamed for it. Quite a few people were telling me that we don't run screen passes under Joe Gibbs system, they're only quick hitches. Where are those guys at?

I remeber your post I responded in that thread also.

10-18-2005, 06:04 PM	#1
mattdouthat Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 50	Wide Reciever Screen Wow I saw them throw that screen to Moss and I was like not again that play never works very well then all pf a sudden Moss is gone and I was like god I love that play. I know plenty of us have trashed that play these last years but when exucuted right that play was beautiful.

10-18-2005, 06:43 PM	#2
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Wide Reciever Screen When it works it's a thing of beauty, however the other 150 times......

10-18-2005, 07:03 PM	#3
gusbus Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 58	Re: Wide Reciever Screen I would like to see a screen thrown to Portis out of the backfield. I don't think they have run that play all season. It would get Portis out in the open with blockers in front of hi. Look what Priest did with it.

10-18-2005, 07:49 PM	#6
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Wide Reciever Screen Everyone just has to do their assignments in terms of blocking, and the play is great. The time I hate the play is when they throw it into one on one coverage and theres no blockers, then I think its a worthless play. __________________ #21

10-18-2005, 07:54 PM	#7
jhold4th Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Omaha Age: 61 Posts: 57	Re: Wide Reciever Screen I remember the swing pass working very well with Betts and Cartwright when SS ran the show. The few times they did it was sweet. __________________ "Die you dirty dogs, die!!!" Sam Wyche, December 1972

10-18-2005, 08:17 PM	#8
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Wide Reciever Screen I've seen plenty of grumbling about the WR screen play and I don't know why people hate it. It will pick you up 3 yards if nothing else and if you catch the defense blitzing or CB 10 yards off it's has a potential home run play. Not only that but if you do it a number of times there is a potential that the CB will creep up and your WR can go deep and catch a bomb. Put me down as one that has always been a fan WR screens...

10-18-2005, 08:37 PM	#9
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Wide Reciever Screen the thing is that we are now getting so much cushion that the other teams are practically telling us to do it. Last year the screen never worked but Moss has just so much speed that people start to fall down as he runs by them. Maybe it will start working better but it as good as a decent run so why not do some screens. The only thing is the screen makes the defense play closer and closer as it is run more and more, as the other teams last year played close enough we couldn't get the run going and i feel the stupid 1 yard and screen passes were doing us in. maybe this year playing up close just won't be an option with our speed

10-18-2005, 10:22 PM	#11
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 890	Re: Wide Reciever Screen the WR screen is a good play. it, to me is the passing equivalent of a running play. it's gonna get you a few yards and i puts the ball in the hands of one of the fastest players in the NFL. there are some who when as soon as they see its a pass play, feel that it shud be a bomb or something. this is stupid. if anything beyond what i said earlier, the WR screen keeps the cb on their toes, forces them to make a tackle, and sets up other plays in the offensive arsenal. so stand by the wr screen and dont be one of "those" fans...

10-19-2005, 01:54 PM	#12
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 69 Posts: 868	Re: Wide Reciever Screen Watching Santana Moss blaze past defenders was the prettiest sight since he toasted Roy Williams of the Cowgirls. I can't remember getting that excited by one play in a long time. The Brunnel to Moss connection is wonderful. I really like the Brunnel to Cooley connection also. If only Patten or Thrash would step up.

10-19-2005, 06:03 PM	#13
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Wide Reciever Screen I still hate the wide receiver screen. The reason it blows up so often with us before is because teams were playing so close to the line that the defense was playing so tight to the line. It is still feast or famine, I don't mind one or two a game but it can also blow up on you, witness Peerless Price and his -1 yards receiving vs the Skins. I'd like to see more attempts to get Portis out in space, use him more like Ladanian Tomlinson instead of John Riggins. Why are we not swinging more passes to CP, he should be the one dominating our offense and not Brunell. There's no excuse as to why Portis hasn't reached the end zone this year, and more than turnovers, more than cutting down the wideout screens, and more than even playing LaVar we've got to figure out how to get Portis into the end zone. Once we do, then we'll have a complete offense and be a threat to make the playoffs. Brunell can only carry us for so long, we've got to start riding Portis if we want to be a playoff team.

10-19-2005, 12:00 AM	#14
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 45 Posts: 2,958	Re: Wide Reciever Screen You know, I don't remember what thread it was in, but I started talking about screen passes and I got reamed for it. Quite a few people were telling me that we don't run screen passes under Joe Gibbs system, they're only quick hitches. Where are those guys at?

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