Trading Patrick Ramsey

dmek25 · 11-07-2005, 03:42 PM

I read on Fox Sports that the Skins are considering trading Ramsey for John Abraham once the season ends. I don't know that much about Abraham. Would this be a good deal for the Skins?

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-07-2005, 03:48 PM

Um... YES.

BigSKINBauer · 11-07-2005, 03:50 PM

like i said in the other thread a few weeks ago that is what i was hoping for in the first place, we need agood DE and abraham=good DE
i never thought it was possible but if the want to, hey i am not complaining

Warpath · 11-07-2005, 03:53 PM

Damn the skins really love the Jets players huh...

MTK · 11-07-2005, 03:54 PM

The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

Carnage · 11-07-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

or desperate

Southpaw · 11-07-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnage

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72
The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

or desperate

I think desperate is closer to the truth. Chad Pennington is good, but he's going to be walking with a cane soon. He's as frail as an old lady. I'm sure many coaches have seen game film of the pounding that Ramsey took on a regular basis, but continued to get up and play. Herm Edwards is one of those coaches that believes in supporting his players, almost to a fault, and he probably thinks Ramsey could perform well, given the opportunity. Coles might be dropping hints to him also, since he was Ramseys' favorite target.

If Ramsey could develop into a solid, mid tier QB(Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, etc.), he would be far more valuable to the Jets than even a stud defensive end like Abraham.

offiss · 11-07-2005, 05:16 PM

Everyone forgets Abraham sitting out the playoffs last season because he said he didn't want to jeopordize his upcoming contract, sounds like a real Gibbs type player, teams just may have a more favorable opinion of Ramsey than we do.

Misterbillysells · 11-08-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Everyone forgets Abraham sitting out the playoffs last season because he said he didn't want to jeopordize his upcoming contract, sounds like a real Gibbs type player, teams just may have a more favorable opinion of Ramsey than we do.

Thank You. I couldnt agree more. Everyday Gibbs talks about how proud he is of guys playing injured and these are regular season games. Abraham sat out in the playoffs when his coaches thought he was ready to play. Even TO wasnt that selfish. Abraham is not a Joe Gibbs kinda player so theres no doubt that he wont be traded for Ramsey. Remember the Jets called the skins early in the season looking for a trade. Im sure Abraham was on the table then and joe gibbs didnt bite and Im sure he wont change his mind anytime soon.

celts32 · 11-07-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

Yes...that would be stupid of the Jets.

Big C · 11-07-2005, 03:56 PM

i agree, trading p ram (which to us is about nothing since hes a backup QB who has no future with us), for a guy like Abraham who is only 27, and a pro bowl caliber PASS RUSHING DE, this would be a great straight up trade

#56fanatic · 11-07-2005, 04:00 PM

I would definately make that trade. Abraham is still young and has some years in him. Plus we are grooming Campbell for the future and having Ramsey would only hurt that progression. If the Jets go straight up, then that is one hell of deal. An unproven QB for a proven DE with good pass rushing skills. Jets would actually end up with the short end of that stick, but I will take it. I like Ramsey and hate to see him go, but its clear Gibbs doesn't think he can do the job. Plus Daniels seems to be hurt alot. He would probably be more productive and stay fresh if he was in a rotation. He could even play some DT, which he is big enough to do now.

giacomo2 · 11-11-2005, 07:22 PM

from what i've heard chad pennington is just about shot, his arm strength is very poor and they really do need a young starter, plus they like ramsey. it would be a great trade for us though, J.A. is a stud and would fit perfect with our system.

FRPLG · 11-11-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by giacomo2

from what i've heard chad pennington is just about shot, his arm strength is very poor and they really do need a young starter, plus they like ramsey. it would be a great trade for us though, J.A. is a stud and would fit perfect with our system.

Pennington never had a strong arm and I can't imagine it is going to gte any better. This guy could be agreat NFL qb but injuries will most likely force him out fo the league in the 4 or 5 years I would guess. Ramsye might be an answer there but they can't trade a guy when he is already going to be a FA can they? Unless they franchise him he is not on their team after the season is over. We'd be silly to trade for him when we could sign him as a FA . They aren't going to franchise him since he'd go ballistic.

JWsleep · 11-07-2005, 03:56 PM

Link? I also doubt the Jets make that move--would be good for us, especially as Campbell develops. We'll see... we're only at week 9 yet.

11-07-2005, 03:42 PM	#1
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Trading Patrick Ramsey I read on Fox Sports that the Skins are considering trading Ramsey for John Abraham once the season ends. I don't know that much about Abraham. Would this be a good deal for the Skins? Last edited by Sheriff Gonna Getcha; 11-07-2005 at 07:57 PM.

11-07-2005, 03:48 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: trading p ramsey Um... YES. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-07-2005, 03:50 PM	#3
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: trading p ramsey like i said in the other thread a few weeks ago that is what i was hoping for in the first place, we need agood DE and abraham=good DE i never thought it was possible but if the want to, hey i am not complaining

11-07-2005, 03:53 PM	#4
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 49 Posts: 1,762	Re: trading p ramsey Damn the skins really love the Jets players huh...

11-07-2005, 05:16 PM	#8
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: trading p ramsey Everyone forgets Abraham sitting out the playoffs last season because he said he didn't want to jeopordize his upcoming contract, sounds like a real Gibbs type player, teams just may have a more favorable opinion of Ramsey than we do.

11-07-2005, 03:54 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Re: trading p ramsey The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

11-07-2005, 03:56 PM	#11
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: trading p ramsey i agree, trading p ram (which to us is about nothing since hes a backup QB who has no future with us), for a guy like Abraham who is only 27, and a pro bowl caliber PASS RUSHING DE, this would be a great straight up trade __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

11-07-2005, 04:00 PM	#12
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: trading p ramsey I would definately make that trade. Abraham is still young and has some years in him. Plus we are grooming Campbell for the future and having Ramsey would only hurt that progression. If the Jets go straight up, then that is one hell of deal. An unproven QB for a proven DE with good pass rushing skills. Jets would actually end up with the short end of that stick, but I will take it. I like Ramsey and hate to see him go, but its clear Gibbs doesn't think he can do the job. Plus Daniels seems to be hurt alot. He would probably be more productive and stay fresh if he was in a rotation. He could even play some DT, which he is big enough to do now.

11-11-2005, 07:22 PM	#13
giacomo2 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 61	Re: Trading Patrick Ramsey from what i've heard chad pennington is just about shot, his arm strength is very poor and they really do need a young starter, plus they like ramsey. it would be a great trade for us though, J.A. is a stud and would fit perfect with our system.

11-07-2005, 03:56 PM	#15
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: trading p ramsey Link? I also doubt the Jets make that move--would be good for us, especially as Campbell develops. We'll see... we're only at week 9 yet. __________________ Hail from Houston!

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