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Old 11-30-2005, 11:31 PM   #1
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Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

wow. Not a single nice thing to say about the Redskins. The sad part is, some of it is true. Writing things like this probably makes her day.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112901478.html
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:44 PM   #2
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

hate her so much right now...
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:03 AM   #3
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

"At this point only the real burgundy-bleeders, the ones who sit in traffic to park in a littered pay lot and watch the Washington Redskins from the far reaches of the upper deck, who decorate their houses with Redskins door-knockers and table lamps, and their cars with antenna flags, believe that this can still be a deserving playoff team.

No, the season's not over. Yes, they've got five games left. But this is the time of year when teams get better, or they get worse, and the Redskins at 5-6 have gotten decidedly worse. The trends are not good, and after 11 games, trends are the truth. What you are now is probably what you are, period."



This is great stuff here, i don't mind it, it is true that we are on a downward trend and that nothing shows that we can win 5 straight but then the bit-- ahem, jackass goes




"Playoff-bound teams, ascendant ones as opposed to deteriorating ones, don't look as if they've been stricken by bird flu. They haven't lost six of their last eight and blown three straight fourth-quarter leads, or dropped two in a row at home. Nor are they carping about officiating, bad luck and injuries."

all the green is good stuff i don't mind it but in the red she is just taking shots to take shots. That is exactly why that the people who hate her, hate her. It changes the tone of the entire article to one that is just mocking. Then i don't know what the hell she is talking about:

"It's not just the big trends, the 5-6 mark against the fifth-weakest schedule in the league, and the fourth-quarter collapses that provoke skepticism."



WEAK SCHEDULE?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I hope i don't understand this incoherent d-bag right.




"It's the smaller, sickly trends that make it difficult to believe the Redskins can reverse the larger trends. Joe Gibbs has coached the Redskins for 27 games, and they've managed to score more than 21 points just four times. Clinton Portis has yet to rush for consecutive 100-yard games. On third-down conversions against San Diego on Sunday, they were 3 for 14, and in the fourth quarter alone they were 1 for 6.
It's officially a trend when you get the ball at the opponent's 31-yard line -- and can't get close enough to kick a field goal.

Watching the Redskins' offense has become a mental chore. For a quarter or two, it looks all right. You see some promise, you really do. And then the three-and-outs become numbing, and you find your mind wandering to other, more interesting things, like, how you need to recycle the dry-cleaning hangers in the closet, and clean the oven grease trap."

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"Compare those trends to what some other teams are doing, trend-wise. Seattle, an early-season victim of the Redskins, has won seven straight. So has Chicago. Denver has won four in a row. So have the Chargers, who incidentally have managed to score at least 17 points in 25 straight games. Even Minnesota has won four in a row with Brad Johnson and is above .500 for the first time this season, and has a chance to get to 7-5 with the Lions coming up. As for the NFC East, the New York Giants and Eli Manning had won four of their previous five before their soul-searing loss in overtime to the Seahawks on Sunday, and if place kicker Jay Feely's leg works at all, they've won five of six. If you watched that game with any detachment, you thought, "I just watched two playoff teams.""

Fair Points but its ok if the giants lose close ones right? even though the skins beat that same team in a close one IN OVERTIME


"The Redskins by comparison are a vague, blurry team with no clear identity. They're a ball-control team that can't control the ball, a big-play defense that hasn't made enough game-winning stops. They do a lot of good things, but they do as many bad things -- Casey Rabach didn't just hold that guy, he calf-roped him. Or they founder in the middle of the field doing nothing at all. They've been flat and cautious when it counted most, and their play-calling is indecipherable. The Redskins' lack of any distinguishing feature, of hard edges, has become their most defining characteristic. They are unremarkable."

Whatever


"Predictably so. And that brings us to the most chronic trend of all, the trend that has lasted more than five years now: The Redskins are in danger of becoming consistently, repeatedly, systematically, season after season, through changes in coaches, players, etc., etc., a losing franchise. You get the uneasy sense that what has happened to them in the last few games is part of some larger, long-term malaise for which they're not entirely responsible. You feel for Gibbs and his players, it's difficult to watch all that hard work and hard play disappear into the gloom that has marked Daniel Snyder's ownership. The Redskins put teams on the field under Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer that managed to lose critical close games . . . and now they've turned around and put a team on the field that lost critical close games to Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer.
Worst of all, their chronic struggle to be better than a .500 team has not been especially interesting to watch. To find the Redskins interesting, you have to be strangely fascinated by malfunctions. You have to have a weird interest in the forensics of failure. Or you have to find their various capricious ways of losing suspenseful."

Or be a fan????


"And that trend is perhaps finally beginning to tell in the stands. There were 8,400 announced no-shows at FedEx Field on Sunday, which suggests that a fan base that has been historically one of the most passionate and loyal in all of pro football, may finally be feeling a tad fed up. It's a measure of Washingtonians' devotion and emotional generosity that so many keep showing up.
There is only one way to spin this into a hopeful situation, and that's to point out that the NFL is so unpredictable that anything can happen, the games are so close week in and week out, and decided by such small margins of error, that the Redskins can still turn it around. If they cure those untimely mistakes and play decently in fourth quarters, maybe they can wind up 10-6. But it's a pretty thin argument. The Redskins are a team that won all the close games in September but lost most of them in November, so if you're laying odds on December it doesn't look good. Still, it's something for fans to hope for. And believing, after all, is the job of a die-hard, which is why you should take every drink from now to the end of the season from your Redskins mug while wearing your burgundy and gold necktie, or your Indian-head logo earrings."
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:09 AM   #4
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

she is accomplishing what she intended!!!!!Stop talkin about her. WTF!!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:20 AM   #5
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

Bigskin, the reason she said 5th weakest schedule in the league is because before the start of the season, it was. Surprisingly, most of the teams we have played have winning records.

Bears: 8-3
Cowboys - 7-4
Seahawks - 9-2
Broncos - 9-2
Chiefs - 7-4
49ers - 2-9
Giants - 7-4
Eagles - 5-6
Buccaneers - 7-4
Raiders - 4-7
Chargers - 7-4

as you can see, the teams we have played are a combined 82 - 51. That certainly is not the fifth weakest schedule in the league. She is just going on whatever looks best.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:34 AM   #6
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

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Bigskin, the reason she said 5th weakest schedule in the league is because before the start of the season, it was. Surprisingly, most of the teams we have played have winning records.

Bears: 8-3
Cowboys - 7-4
Seahawks - 9-2
Broncos - 9-2
Chiefs - 7-4
49ers - 2-9
Giants - 7-4
Eagles - 5-6
Buccaneers - 7-4
Raiders - 4-7
Chargers - 7-4

as you can see, the teams we have played are a combined 82 - 51. That certainly is not the fifth weakest schedule in the league. She is just going on whatever looks best.
gotcha, that is exactly why we hate her, we have played very good teams and she discredits her articles with dumbass comments like that. Most of her stuff is straight to the point and it is hard to argue but she has a way of putting in little things that change the tone of the articles. Most of the stuff is green but she always has to have that red stuff, and this is why some of us can say, 'well she is only speaking the truth' while others hate her so much. If she just sticked to the logical stuff i wouldn't mind her, infact some parts of her articles are really good and reflect EXACTLY what some of us are thinking.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:04 PM   #7
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

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gotcha, that is exactly why we hate her, we have played very good teams and she discredits her articles with dumbass comments like that. Most of her stuff is straight to the point and it is hard to argue but she has a way of putting in little things that change the tone of the articles. Most of the stuff is green but she always has to have that red stuff, and this is why some of us can say, 'well she is only speaking the truth' while others hate her so much. If she just sticked to the logical stuff i wouldn't mind her, infact some parts of her articles are really good and reflect EXACTLY what some of us are thinking.
Good analysis BigSkin. I also had a hard time arguing with most of what she said this time, but she always throws in those potshots (like the schedule comment) which discredit her valid comments.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:56 AM   #8
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

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Bigskin, the reason she said 5th weakest schedule in the league is because before the start of the season, it was. Surprisingly, most of the teams we have played have winning records.

Bears: 8-3
Cowboys - 7-4
Seahawks - 9-2
Broncos - 9-2
Chiefs - 7-4
49ers - 2-9
Giants - 7-4
Eagles - 5-6
Buccaneers - 7-4
Raiders - 4-7
Chargers - 7-4

as you can see, the teams we have played are a combined 82 - 51. That certainly is not the fifth weakest schedule in the league. She is just going on whatever looks best.
mooby, you said it. i was going to make the same post. The fact is that we have played some very good teams and have been in almost every single game. I don't know of too many teams that have had as difficult schedule as we have.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:30 AM   #9
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

I usually try to avoid name-calling, but this woman is a complete idiot. I'm not even taking issue with her analysis (although there is room to say she is cherry-picking the evidence). For a WASHINGTON Post reporter to bash the organization and, implicitly, the fans says to me that she is a complete idiot. A great way to get ridden out of town is to show that you have no idea what this organization means to the townsfolk and why we love the team even in their worst times.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:37 AM   #10
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

she lives in NY... why the hell is she a local sports columnist?
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Old 12-01-2005, 07:41 AM   #11
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

:vomit: :smashfrea best to just ignore her. i do.we get the post but i don't even read the sports page anymore. fact is i don't read the paper .well iv'e wasted enough time talking about them , next?!!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:25 AM   #12
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

There was a thread a couple of months ago about Jenkins. I didn't like her then and I don't like her now.

But my thing is, why doesn't she just write for a NY newspaper....what's all the hate about towards this area and our team? She flat out sucks....and, yes she's a cunt!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:26 AM   #13
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

Playoff team????????? Now don't get me wrong but I think that we have seen enough of the Skins blowing it late in the game to say nice try better time next year. Quarterback? Who? Exactly!!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:51 AM   #14
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

I wonder how Sally saw the Skins fans she bashed from NYC?
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:42 AM   #15
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

Let me also say, I apoligize if "cunt" offended some on the thread...but she's throwing salt in the wound and doesn't even care.
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