Flags on helmets

[KLHJ2]

As a member of the U.S. military I pay close attention to uniforms on the football field. I think that it is great that all teams wear our flag on their helmets. It upsets me that they all wear it incorrectly with the excecption of the Army team. The reason that I say this is because the Stars of the Flag should always face foreword, because they never retreat. If you dont quite fully understand what I am talking about, then read on. Imagine that a players body is a flagpole and he is facing the enemy heading into battle. When he is viewed from the side the stars should be moving foreward. Since The traditional way that we View the flag is with the stars on the left, then that flag should be worn on the left side of the helmet. But all football teams wear them on the right (Army) excluded. If teams want to wear them on the right side as they do now, then they should get a reverse sided flag where the stars are on the right. You may have noticed that our soldiers wear the reversed sided flag on their right shoulders of their uniforms. I know that some of you will disagree with me and say that the flags are worn on the back of the helmet. No they are not because they are offset to the right rear of the helmet in which case the stars should be on the right when viewed. I am going to ask one of the admisistrators to start a petition to get flags across the country on the left side, the correct side of the helmet or get reverse sided flags for wear on the right.

[CRT3]

Excellent point!!! I tried for years to get the American Flag a FEDEX lit up at night as they failed to do so. Finally after 3 years I talked to the Operations guy who promptly lit it for the next home night game. Ask them and they might actually respond.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by CRT3

Excellent point!!! I tried for years to get the American Flag a FEDEX lit up at night as they failed to do so. Finally after 3 years I talked to the Operations guy who promptly lit it for the next home night game. Ask them and they might actually respond.

They actually seem willing to listen. Danny boy was asked to put more porta potties in the parking lots and at the next game they had more. Now how to get them to not charge $6 for a hot dog I have no idea. As far as the flags I am not sure I follow. Shouldn't the start always be to the left when facing the flag? That's how everyone seems to think it should be.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

They actually seem willing to listen. Danny boy was asked to put more porta potties in the parking lots and at the next game they had more. Now how to get them to not charge $6 for a hot dog I have no idea. As far as the flags I am not sure I follow. Shouldn't the start always be to the left when facing the flag? That's how everyone seems to think it should be.

That is how the should be viewed from a podium. Because the only direction you can march a formation is by giving them a "right face" in which the people would face right and the stars would be foreward. Remember that as you are moving foreward the Stars are as well.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by CRT3

Excellent point!!! I tried for years to get the American Flag a FEDEX lit up at night as they failed to do so. Finally after 3 years I talked to the Operations guy who promptly lit it for the next home night game. Ask them and they might actually respond.

Good point CRT! That point you brought up is actually a federal law and can be found in the Flag Code of the United States. If a flag is to be flown between the hours of sunset and sunrise, it is to be illuminated on all sides.

As a retired military man of 24 years I agree about the placement of the flags on the helments. That is the way it was on my uniforms in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Good point CRT! That point you brought up is actually a federal law and can be found in the Flag Code of the United States. If a flag is to be flown between the hours of sunset and sunrise, it is to be illuminated on all sides.

As a retired military man of 24 years I agree about the placement of the flags on the helments. That is the way it was on my uniforms in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Thanks for your service. Just out of curiousity, what branch of service were you in and which units were you with?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Thanks for your service. Just out of curiousity, what branch of service were you in and which units were you with?

US Army

C 1/19th Feild Artillery, Fort Sill
D 2/80th Field Artillery, Fort Sill
C1/9th Field Artillery, Fort Stewart 3 ID
A 5/7th Air Defense Artillery, Germany
B 442nd Signal Battalion, Fort Gordon

[jamf]

True...

[RiggoRules]

Originally Posted by angryssg

As a member of the U.S. military I pay close attention to uniforms on the football field. I think that it is great that all teams wear our flag on their helmets. It upsets me that they all wear it incorrectly with the excecption of the Army team. The reason that I say this is because the Stars of the Flag should always face foreword, because they never retreat. If you dont quite fully understand what I am talking about, then read on. Imagine that a players body is a flagpole and he is facing the enemy heading into battle. When he is viewed from the side the stars should be moving foreward. Since The traditional way that we View the flag is with the stars on the left, then that flag should be worn on the left side of the helmet. But all football teams wear them on the right (Army) excluded. If teams want to wear them on the right side as they do now, then they should get a reverse sided flag where the stars are on the right. You may have noticed that our soldiers wear the reversed sided flag on their right shoulders of their uniforms. I know that some of you will disagree with me and say that the flags are worn on the back of the helmet. No they are not because they are offset to the right rear of the helmet in which case the stars should be on the right when viewed. I am going to ask one of the admisistrators to start a petition to get flags across the country on the left side, the correct side of the helmet or get reverse sided flags for wear on the right.

This is no accident Staff Sgt. It is all part of a well planned conspiracy by to take our beloved sport of football and subject it to foreign influence. In fact, they'll be starting games next year with the national anthem being sung in Spanish.

;-)

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

This is no accident Staff Sgt. It is all part of a well planned conspiracy by to take our beloved sport of football and subject it to foreign influence. In fact, they'll be starting games next year with the national anthem being sung in Spanish.

;-)

Funny, but come on Riggo, he brings up a good point. Seriously if you are going to represent your country by using a flag do it the right way, goddamn it. I really do feel they should change it, and I think alot of us, including me, didnt know this way the case. I'm actually not a big fan of the gov't right now, and im not some crazy over physco patriot, but I'm glad that someone pointed this out, and I guess its not a surprise that its a soilder.

[Beemnseven]

I might get crucified for posting this, but ... sometimes I think the flag etiquette thing gets a little out of hand. But I was never one to hold much reverance for symbols though anyway.

If you're in the military and you've spent a good part of your life adhering to strict regulations about the flag that's one thing, but come on -- it's not like Moses brought it down from Mount Sinai or anything. The NFL doesn't have to allow jack sh*t on their helmets if they don't want to.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I might get crucified for posting this, but ...

Sorry, can't spare the wood.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I might get crucified for posting this, but ... sometimes I think the flag etiquette thing gets a little out of hand. But I was never one to hold much reverance for symbols though anyway.

If you're in the military and you've spent a good part of your life adhering to strict regulations about the flag that's one thing, but come on -- it's not like Moses brought it down from Mount Sinai or anything. The NFL doesn't have to allow jack sh*t on their helmets if they don't want to.

I honestly am quite like you, Im not a big guy about symbols, even our flag. But if you are going to do something, do it right. Why do you think Army has their team with the flags the right way? American Football is great for what it is and when the sport shows pride for the great country its from, I guess they should do it the right way. Im sure you think im some kind of overly-conservative freak by making this arguement, but I am actually a crazy liberal minority. My whole pt is doing something about the flag the right way, automatically becomes too much, but it really shouldnt be. Just bc we do not know that this is how it should be, doesnt mean we shouldnt accept it. Just think of it this way, when you are holding a flag and walking, the stars will always be closer to the pole you are holding. So with the "stars should always be in front, bc america is moving forward" argument, it just makes sense, bc the stars will always be physically in front of everything else if we holding a flag. Maybe if the football players were spinning in clockwise circles then the current flag setup would be fine lol.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I might get crucified for posting this, but ... sometimes I think the flag etiquette thing gets a little out of hand. But I was never one to hold much reverance for symbols though anyway.

If you're in the military and you've spent a good part of your life adhering to strict regulations about the flag that's one thing, but come on -- it's not like Moses brought it down from Mount Sinai or anything. The NFL doesn't have to allow jack sh*t on their helmets if they don't want to.

I agree, non-issue in my book.

[Daseal]

i think this is a little picky too. All in all, the flag is the flag.