Redskins @ Titans Thread

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Can someone post some general reactions to the game? I missed the game (I'm out in Kansas City for the weekend), so I'm ridiculously put of the loop right now...

Here you go..

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[iRepDMV]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I think, in general, he played well, too. That play just rubbed me the wrong way.

I see what you're saying, but I felt more like he had turned it upfield and his legs sort of went dead on contact, that's why I said "he went straight down." I incorrectly characterized it as him shying away, when I should have said "didn't really fight for it." That's how I saw the play. I'd like to see it again, honestly

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7:40 ish mark. Your welcome

I agree with you. It looks like he was shying away. I was irate as well when i saw the play live. Hankerson tends to drop to the floor alot instead of fighting for extra yards like other big WRs with similar size...

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rak looked like he's worked on some new moves. Loved how he dipped and got low on his sack.

I saw that move, too. It was perhaps the most exciting moment of the whole game for me. In the past that was the move Rak needed to make but didn't. With that low move Rak not only will be more effective, he'll also get held less.

This could be the year that Rak advances from "very good" to "elite."

[JoeRedskin]

Just read a good quote Rich Tandler: The Skins 3rd QB spot is not a developmental spot. The developmental QB's are in the 1st and 2nd spots.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

its not worth having him over a guy like Chris Thompson of Chase Minnifield for an extra tackle (offensive or defensive )

This is an Excellent point.

My only concern is with all the talk of eventually trading Cousins, why not have someone groomed to replace our #2 on our practice squad...perhaps it is someone that will be cut.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

This is an Excellent point.

My only concern is with all the talk of eventually trading Cousins, why not have someone groomed to replace our #2 on our practice squad...perhaps it is someone that will be cut.

I don't think Cousins is going anywhere for a while. RG3 has had two major knee surgeries in four years. It would be stupid to trade him and I don't think Shanahan and Allen are stupid.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think Cousins is going anywhere for a while. RG3 has had two major knee surgeries in four years. It would be stupid to trade him and I don't think Shanahan and Allen are stupid.

Yeah, I know...but if we had another young QB with mobility to develop into a backup....that would be wise. Heck...for all we know, RG3 plays 15 games this year but Cousins plays 1 and totally lights it up....and if next yrs draft sucks...it is at least feasible, we could get 2, 2nd rounders for Cousins...that would be awesome and hard to pass up...if we have no plan to replace Cousins, we'd couldn't really replace him with anyone other than a Rex Grossman type player....which wouldn't shock me. I just like the idea of having 2 young QB's in our non traditional scheme vs oldschool....starter plus and old guy backup. Primarily due to our teams mobility dependancy.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

This is an Excellent point.

My only concern is with all the talk of eventually trading Cousins, why not have someone groomed to replace our #2 on our practice squad...perhaps it is someone that will be cut.

Read my updated Roster I just posted in the final 53 thread to see if what I posted makes sense.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

I was disappointed to see Keiland and Royster getting carries in the game. It makes me feel like the 2 drafted RB's may not see the field much or even make it to the 53.

There is nothing to be concerned about. It was only the first exhibition game. Keiland and Royster have contributed to this team in the past and they deserved an opportunity. But we probably won't see them in the second exhibition game when the rookies will get some playing time.

Also, it is possible that none of these four players will make the final roster. the Skins might pick up another RB from somewhere else if one of these players doesn't stand out in the exhibition games.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I saw that move, too. It was perhaps the most exciting moment of the whole game for me. In the past that was the move Rak needed to make but didn't. With that low move Rak not only will be more effective, he'll also get held less.

This could be the year that Rak advances from "very good" to "elite."

Yeah if he makes that dip move work on a regular basis he could jump into the 12+ sack area and really be a force. He's always had the power moves, he just needed to add some finesse.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah if he makes that dip move work on a regular basis he could jump into the 12+ sack area and really be a force. He's always had the power moves, he just needed to add some finesse.

That is something both him and Kerrigan needed to work on. I felt they both tried too hard to make it look like they were being held or would just use strength to try to beat their man. Hopefully they both take the next step and become a great tandem.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

I might be a little bias since I went to ECU with Lance but in my eyes Lance > Stallworth, Briscoe, and Hankerson. Hankerson just doesn't go up and get it enough for me and is not very good at all after the catch just doesn't make you ever say "wow" what play. I think Lance does all that.

[Monkeydad]

Just watched on NFLN last evening. My thoughts:

*Helu looked incredible...healthy and explosive.

*Royster better than expected.

*Fred Davis is going to have a huge year.

*Aldrick, you have to make those catches.

*Keep Lance Lewis, cut the washed-up players like Stallworth and Henderson

*I want to see Rambo hit someone.

*Amerson, Minnifield, Crawford...looking good.

*Do we keep Rex' experience and familiarity with Kyle over Pat White's ability to run the current offense as a slightly slower pace than RGIII? Tempting to keep White but I would still be more confident in Grossman than White to lead us to a win. How many team can actually say they still have a chance to win with their #3 QB? I think, with Rex we do. Of course, Bad Rex can show up at any time but with our running game, Rex only have to hand off and not screw spectacularly thing up otherwise.

[JoeRedskin]

For all the PW > RG(III)

Film Sessions: Pat White's Good (But Completely and Utterly Overrated) Preseason Game

Film Sessions: Rex Grossman's Horrible Preseason Game Was Actually Pretty Decent

Good analysis. Haters going to hate and some are always looking for the next best thing but, bottom line, PW has a pop-gun arm and stares down receivers. Nothing against the guy but, until he shows something different, he is not an NFL QB.

PW is the next in the line preseason favorites preceded by Beck and Brennan. I rooted for Brennan and fell for the "Beck can start in the NFL" argument - I have learned my lesson. These guys are where they are b/c folks whose livelihood's depend on it don't trust them to be competent QB's.

As a side note, given the lack of arm strength by Beck and White, who in Miami is rating QB talent to think that they warranted a 2nd round pick? You would think one of the questions would be - "Can he throw the ball 50 yards downfield" or "Can he make all the required throws including a deep ball and a 20 yard out with zip?". Passes neither fo these two can make.

[Frankly, PW isn't even a CFL QB - they routinely need to throw the deep ball. Accuracy in the short field doesn't appear to be PW problem - throwing more than 15 yards and staring down receivers does.]

[JoeRedskin]

Also, watched the Hankerson play several times. I see how it could be seen that he was avoiding contact because he ducked his head prior the hit. On the other hand, he didn't go straight to the ground, try to juke out the way, or just completely give himself up. IMO, I still see a guy who, turned upfield after a catch and lowered his shoulder before being hit by two guys with just as much momentum as him. If he comes in high, he gets stood up, knocked back and possibly stripped of the ball. It was a bang-bang play and basic physics was working against him.

Could he have been more "instinctual" about where the markers and defenders were? Maybe. Also, I saw Shanny come over to him but nothing to indicate a tongue lashing. From what I saw, he could have said something like "Nice try" or "Next time try and turn it up quicker" or any number of similar statements.

At the end of the day, I just think you may be reading too much into this one play and that it's one of those "reasonable people" can differ on.