Same Ol' Story

skinsguy · 10-16-2005, 04:23 PM

Can't win when you turn the ball over. We shot ourselves in the foot with this one. The first turnover wasn't Brunell's fault necessarily, but the other two turnovers should've never happened. Turnovers and stupid penalities. Until we fix those two problems, it's going to be hard for us to pick up wins against good teams.

hurrykaine · 10-16-2005, 04:27 PM

yes, I would cut Rock Cartwright to send a message. The benching of one Derrick DOckery is also necessary - he sucks!

RedskinRat · 10-16-2005, 04:30 PM

Horrible game to watch, when the team was looking so strong and they kill a great drive by putting the ball on the turf. Also the early calls were disgusting particularly the 4th down conversion spot.

I'd also like to have seen Arrington on the field on long 3rd downs....

Damn it! One we should have won.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-16-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

yes, I would cut Rock Cartwright to send a message. The benching of one Derrick DOckery is also necessary - he sucks!

Cutting Cartwright is not the answer. I remember people wanted to cut Antonio Pierce after he tried to draw Dallas players offsides in a game in 2003. Let's be upset (or even angry), but not hasty.

skinsguy · 10-16-2005, 04:35 PM

Well, if you cut anybody, and the Redskins are not in a situation where they can do so, you'd cut Jimoh. Honestly, he just doesn't belong on the defense. He might be a decent special teams guy, but he either gets beat or he commits the pass interference. We need Springs back in a huge way.

Daseal · 10-16-2005, 04:37 PM

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Can't win when you turn the ball over.

We've won 3 games with a negative turnover ratio. Not that I enjoy winning that way, but it is possible.

skinsguy · 10-16-2005, 04:39 PM

Well, let me put it this way, you can't KEEP winning turning the ball over. Especially when you're turning the ball over three times in a game.

saden1 · 10-16-2005, 05:02 PM

Skins self-destructed once again. The O-Line played like shit and Rock should probably get his ass cut! You don't win games with stats god damn it!

sniks · 10-16-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

We've won 3 games with a negative turnover ratio. Not that I enjoy winning that way, but it is possible.

not sure of the % number but its something crazy like 10 % of the time you win with 3 or more T.O. s

mooby · 10-16-2005, 06:04 PM

well for sure this wasn't one of those times. fucking jared allen, i'll give him his credit, he's a great player, but chris samuels isn't getting paid a shitload of money to have his ass handed to him on a silver platter. a lot of things killed us in this one, but the thing that concerns me is the fact that our defense is giving up big plays, and it's killing us. it killed us last week vs. denver and it killed us in this one too.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-16-2005, 06:13 PM

Jared Allen?! Who the FUCK is that?

Why is it that people you've never heard of have a career day when they play the Redskins?

SmootSmack · 10-16-2005, 06:17 PM

Well I mean the guy did have 9 sacks last year, his rookie year. That's the second most in franchise history for a rookie.

Didn't he line up over Jon Jansen on at least one of those sacks?

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-16-2005, 06:19 PM

Yup, prior to that I'd never heard of him. I'm just embarassed we got lit up by FREAKIN' Kansas City's defense.

hurrykaine · 10-16-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Cutting Cartwright is not the answer. I remember people wanted to cut Antonio Pierce after he tried to draw Dallas players offsides in a game in 2003. Let's be upset (or even angry), but not hasty.

If Antonio Brown can get cut after one fumble, so can Cartwright. Cartwright has shown a propensity to fumble in the past. The Carolina game in 2003 - the fumbled on the goal-line while going in for a TD and it cost us the game. Cartwright picked up the first down, he should've protected the ball better. If you have to send a message that turnovers will not be tolerated, and since you can't cut your QB for fumbling, Rock should be made an example of. That said, since everyone loves Rock for his work ethic and character, there's a good chance that we'll be able to re-sign him in a week or so.

I know it won't happen, but its a great way to send a message to the players that TOs won't be tolerated.

SmootSmack · 10-16-2005, 06:37 PM

With Betts hurt and Portis seemingly limping off the field after each carry, can we really even afford to cut Rock?

10-16-2005, 04:23 PM	#1
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Same Ol' Story Can't win when you turn the ball over. We shot ourselves in the foot with this one. The first turnover wasn't Brunell's fault necessarily, but the other two turnovers should've never happened. Turnovers and stupid penalities. Until we fix those two problems, it's going to be hard for us to pick up wins against good teams. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-16-2005, 04:27 PM	#2
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 52 Posts: 762	Re: Same Ol' Story yes, I would cut Rock Cartwright to send a message. The benching of one Derrick DOckery is also necessary - he sucks!

10-16-2005, 04:30 PM	#3
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Same Ol' Story Horrible game to watch, when the team was looking so strong and they kill a great drive by putting the ball on the turf. Also the early calls were disgusting particularly the 4th down conversion spot. I'd also like to have seen Arrington on the field on long 3rd downs.... Damn it! One we should have won.

10-16-2005, 04:35 PM	#5
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Same Ol' Story Well, if you cut anybody, and the Redskins are not in a situation where they can do so, you'd cut Jimoh. Honestly, he just doesn't belong on the defense. He might be a decent special teams guy, but he either gets beat or he commits the pass interference. We need Springs back in a huge way. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-16-2005, 04:39 PM	#7
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Same Ol' Story Well, let me put it this way, you can't KEEP winning turning the ball over. Especially when you're turning the ball over three times in a game. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-16-2005, 05:02 PM	#8
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	This Hurts! Skins self-destructed once again. The O-Line played like shit and Rock should probably get his ass cut! You don't win games with stats god damn it!

10-16-2005, 06:04 PM	#10
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Same Ol' Story well for sure this wasn't one of those times. fucking jared allen, i'll give him his credit, he's a great player, but chris samuels isn't getting paid a shitload of money to have his ass handed to him on a silver platter. a lot of things killed us in this one, but the thing that concerns me is the fact that our defense is giving up big plays, and it's killing us. it killed us last week vs. denver and it killed us in this one too. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-16-2005, 06:13 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Same Ol' Story Jared Allen?! Who the FUCK is that? Why is it that people you've never heard of have a career day when they play the Redskins? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-16-2005, 06:17 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Same Ol' Story Well I mean the guy did have 9 sacks last year, his rookie year. That's the second most in franchise history for a rookie. Didn't he line up over Jon Jansen on at least one of those sacks? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-16-2005, 06:19 PM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Same Ol' Story Yup, prior to that I'd never heard of him. I'm just embarassed we got lit up by FREAKIN' Kansas City's defense. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-16-2005, 06:37 PM	#15
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Same Ol' Story With Betts hurt and Portis seemingly limping off the field after each carry, can we really even afford to cut Rock? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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