Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well you can't just say no defense. They've been giving up yards and all but they have been taking the ball away and giving it back to the offense. And yesterday the defense was outstanding.



But again, I think KC is a better than Hoyer. No argument there. But I just don't think we're talking about a huge difference between the two.



I look at the Texans and they flipped out cause Hoyer shit the bed during that playoff loss. They panicked, completely overpaid for an unknown guy. Can you say that Brock is really that much better than Hoyer? I just don't see that much of a difference.

I was referring to our defense since KC took over last season. Hardly a good defense...at all. Ill give the Ravens the same pass as the Skins. Their playcalling sucked. Bye Trestman. The weather was bad.

Edit: I would not trade Kirk for Brock or Hoyer. Not now anyway.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

He didn't throw into triple coverage though. He threw it to Reed because he read a cover 2 she'll and had Reed on a post which was the right read. Mosley made a great play and jumped a mile into the air to catch it.

He's completed that same ball on the same coverage 50x Atleast. He just missed that one.

The receiver he was throwing to had 2 ravens all over him,counting the guy who intercepted it thats 3 but your right it wasn't triple coverage but it was a terrible decision and bad pass,mistakes that he should not still be making.
I would love to see another angle on replay to see if it was the right read because I would think someone else was open,but I don't know how many other receivers they had running routes on the play.So while it may have been the right read it wasn't the right decision

[NC_Skins]

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

OMG really? Being up by 40 points and throwing that pick is harmless,just because dude fumbled doesnt make it harmless.And the wind had nothing to do with it,it looked like he threw it into triple coverage.
The only reason his picks the past 2 games havent been backbreakers is pure frickin luck.
I cannot believe your reasoning,you cannot possibly be being objective about Kirk.If he was playing for another team I do not believe you guys would think Kirk was that great.
Going back to my comparison with Hoyer.Hoyer threw for 400 yards yesterday with 2 tds and no picks.Hoyer and Cousins career stats are very similar.Cousins has slightly higher td percentage but Hoyer has lower int percentage.Plus Hoyer played for freaking Cleveland.
Am I saying I would rather have Hoyer then Cousins,no I'm not but that's probably because I'm a skins fan,I'm a Cousins fan,and therefore I am not looking at it objectively.
Can you imagine Brian Hoyer making 17 million a yr and being considered a franchise qb? I can't either but yet we are thinking that about Kirk.
If that guy doesnt fumble the int do you still think we win that game?
Last week when Cleveland rb fumbled{and from what I read Cleveland actually recovered and it was a blown call,lucky again}do you think we win that game if we dont get that fumble? I dont think we would have won either game.
Just because we won both games does not give Kirk a free pass
But I can see from your post we are not going to agree on this subject,l just hope Kirk's luck will continue in the future when he throws more backbreaking ints
HTTR

Things that matter... no points came from the INT, and we won the game.

Everything else is just noise, including this odd hard-on you seem to have for Hoyer. Go root for Chicago or something. Who cares about Hoyer.

[J. Falcon]

I would stick with Cousins. The chances of finding an average quaterback in free agency or the draft is extremely low. We should know.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

Things that matter... no points came from the INT, and we won the game.

Everything else is just noise, including this odd hard-on you seem to have for Hoyer. Go root for Chicago or something. Who cares about Hoyer.

You are obviously oblivious to when a points been made,I have no hard on for Hoyer unlike your hard-on for Cousins.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

You are obviously oblivious to when a points been made,I have no hard on for Hoyer unlike your hard-on for Cousins.

Hoyer is not a Redskin...lol
Cousins is the best qb we have had in a looooong time, brad johnson had a great year. Rg-3 had a great year. However, all things considered- age, scheme fit, etc - Cousins is our best qb in years.
I am not sure how the hell Brian Hoyer has anything to do with anything ? Check out their numbers from just last year......Cousins is top ten but just scroll way down for Hoyers numbers.....

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?s...tegory=PASSING

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

You are obviously oblivious to when a points been made,I have no hard on for Hoyer unlike your hard-on for Cousins.

Did they score off the INT? Did we win the game? Have we won 3 in a row with 2 on the road? What are we even talking about here??

[calia]

HAHAHAHAHAHA -- Brian Hoyer. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Pretty funny.

Any comparison is insane. Cousins just completed a season breaking all team records for pretty much everything. What ARE we even talking about here?

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

This this and this,that's all I'm saying.No hard on for Hoyer,no dislike for Cousins.If his inconsistent play continues he does not deserve and should not get the big extension.Thank you skinsfan69 for seeing my point.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

"He can't beat a winning team" remember matt? So now it's the "he is lucky to win those games " at the end of the season he'll have 4500 yards 28 tds or so and 12 ints.. 65% percentage. He's going to be fine.

I agree. I said that this would be the first "real" winning team, and barring the wind, he played a solid game and we won. That argument is now gone. Thank goodness.

As for the end of the year stats, I would take those numbers in a heartbeat.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

This this and this,that's all I'm saying.No hard on for Hoyer,no dislike for Cousins.If his inconsistent play continues he does not deserve and should not get the big extension.Thank you skinsfan69 for seeing my point.

Cousins can only improve, but i do believe we 100% know what we have with him on a "typical day" - that is at least one interception a game, and at his worst moments, 2 or 3 INTS in a game. But he also throws a lot of touchdowns too. Maybe a poor man's Brett Favre?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Cousins can only improve, but i do believe we 100% know what we have with him on a "typical day" - that is at least one interception a game, and at his worst moments, 2 or 3 INTS in a game. But he also throws a lot of touchdowns too. Maybe a poor man's Brett Favre?

I feel Like more of a poor mans brees

[MTK]

Kirk has one multiple INT game this year. One. Last year he didn't have one single game with more than 2. It's time to move on from this thought that he's an INT machine. Plenty of the top guys around the league will throw 1 or 2 here and there.

[Evilgrin]

Meh, he isnt a finished product yet. Give him the rest of the season. I think you need to figure out what the other options are. I agree that 20 million of your roster to 1 guy is a big mistake, if he isn't damn good. Joe Flacco, drops mic.