Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by MTK

Kirk has one multiple INT game this year. One. Last year he didn't have one single game with more than 2. It's time to move on from this thought that he's an INT machine. Plenty of the top guys around the league will throw 1 or 2 here and there.

Rodgers threw 2 last night in his win over the Giants.

Definite turnover machine. Packers should move on already.

[Chico23231]

This thread needs to chill the fuck out. I'm more worried about our running game...Matt jones had a horrible effing day

[WillH]

If Cousins keeps playing like this, maybe we can bring back RG3 for cheap. He is already familiar with the team and the scheme. Cousins hasn't done Much better then him 🐂💩

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This thread needs to chill the fuck out. I'm more worried about our running game...Matt jones had a horrible effing day

Well Said!

[jamf]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

Are you guys seriously asking for a low rent qb?
17 QBs are scheduled to make more than $17mil next year.
KC isn't an elite QB but he isn't middle of the pack either.
he will get around $20mil next year.

IMO KC is the best redskins QB since Brad Johnson.
Becareful of what you wish for; We might be able to get Jeff George v2.0(Cutler) on the cheap next year.

[JPPT1974]

The first two losses people were booing Kirk. Now they are applaud him in the three wins. Just a slow start that's all.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

The receiver he was throwing to had 2 ravens all over him,counting the guy who intercepted it thats 3 but your right it wasn't triple coverage but it was a terrible decision and bad pass,mistakes that he should not still be making.
I would love to see another angle on replay to see if it was the right read because I would think someone else was open,but I don't know how many other receivers they had running routes on the play.So while it may have been the right read it wasn't the right decision

It wasn't triple coverage. the NFL will always be tight throws between the hash marks. It was a cover 2 shell. Watch the play again, look up cover 2 shell, and look up how to exploit it. Shit, you can even see it in the highlights because it's so obvious. The deep safety was Atleast 6 yards from Reed. The LB watched Kirks eyes and made a good play. Kirk could of put a little more air on it for a completion or hit the shallow cross coming across the field.

You really need to research before you start saying shit like triple coverage. It's embarrassing for me to even have to explain this. So I won't try to explain it again to you.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

Biggest issue with this philosophy is assuming Scot is going to spend 18 million on free agency for defense. He's been very adamant about building in the draft. You won't be spending 19 million on a few draft picks.

Kirk fits the offense, runs it efficiently to win. You are not going to have a rookie or Colt McCoy run your offense while you try to build the defense. Especially when you have a guy who is winning games now while the defense is poor at best.

You try to win games now in the NFL. There is no "rebuilding" anymore.

Also, I woukd like to add. Please stop referencing it as 19 million dollar contract. The contract doesn't matter. The only thing that does matter is how much cap percentage is used on the QB position on the Redskins roster. Scot most likely won't spend more then 12% of our cap on the QB, since that is the league avg.

Biggest issue with the defense is we have only spent a third of our cap on it. A third of that is on the Dline.

Scot will build through the draft. It's not coincidence they are not signing Phil Taylor or Pot Roast after workout today's and giving Loannidis 65% of the snaps against the Ravens. They want to see what they got.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

It wasn't triple coverage. the NFL will always be tight throws between the hash marks. It was a cover 2 shell. Watch the play again, look up cover 2 shell, and look up how to exploit it. Shit, you can even see it in the highlights because it's so obvious. The deep safety was Atleast 6 yards from Reed. The LB watched Kirks eyes and made a good play. Kirk could of put a little more air on it for a completion or hit the shallow cross coming across the field.

You really need to research before you start saying shit like triple coverage. It's embarrassing for me to even have to explain this. So I won't try to explain it again to you.

I agreed with you, You we're right,it wasnt triple coverage,what more do you want?
And after going back and watching the play several times the 2 Ravens were not as close to him as I first thought,the trailing defender was about 6 yards away but the defender in front of Reed I thought would have been there to either int or knock it away if the pass would have made it past the lb.
I'm sorry you we're embarrassed

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This thread needs to chill the fuck out. I'm more worried about our running game...Matt jones had a horrible effing day

They need to give Kelley more touches, mix it up. On Joneses defense, I believe the ravens were ranked number 1 against the run.

[rocnrik]

A lot of assuming going on here.. How about Letting Cousins play out the year that will determine his value. If he wants to much we move on. if he plays average then give him average pay if he won't sign let somebody else overpay for him. question for all the great football minds out there..would anybody have traded cousins for bradford before season???

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

How about leadership, intangibles, durability, experience and growth within the offense. Is all that available in the free agent market?? I don't think so.

If Colt was our QB Sunday we don't win that game. He could not have thrown the ball 5 yards past the line in that wind.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Biggest issue with this philosophy is assuming Scot is going to spend 18 million on free agency for defense. He's been very adamant about building in the draft. You won't be spending 19 million on a few draft picks.

Kirk fits the offense, runs it efficiently to win. You are not going to have a rookie or Colt McCoy run your offense while you try to build the defense. Especially when you have a guy who is winning games now while the defense is poor at best.

You try to win games now in the NFL. There is no "rebuilding" anymore.

Also, I woukd like to add. Please stop referencing it as 19 million dollar contract. The contract doesn't matter. The only thing that does matter is how much cap percentage is used on the QB position on the Redskins roster. Scot most likely won't spend more then 12% of our cap on the QB, since that is the league avg.

Biggest issue with the defense is we have only spent a third of our cap on it. A third of that is on the Dline.

Scot will build through the draft. It's not coincidence they are not signing Phil Taylor or Pot Roast after workout today's and giving Loannidis 65% of the snaps against the Ravens. They want to see what they got.

This post is spot on. Some fans think that the money that we would save by dumping KC could be spent on defense. Well here's my question. How's that working for the Giants? How's that working for Jacksonville? How's that working for Miami? For the most part, free agency brings in individuals, it doesn't bring you a team.

[Schneed10]

The big flaw in thinking free agency can help you, is people assume good players make it to free agency. Every now and then they do, due to various strange circumstances. Norman and DeSean Jackson were both examples.

But that's not common. Olivier Vernon was the best DE to make it to free agency this year. He had 7.5 sacks last year. That's not a good player.

Free agency should never be viewed as part of the plan. Your plan has to be building through the draft. And if you get lucky in free agency and a player comes available, then keep your cap in a good place so that you can pounce on the opportunity.

You use it as a way to be opportunistic and build out depth, you can't use it to build a foundation.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Anyone have access to PFF's breakdown of Ionnidis?