Jordan Reed

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

The tight end said that his family has expressed concern about his health, as have Redskins coaches and officials.

“[My family members] are always going to show concern and stuff like that because they care more about my health than anything, but I’ve got to take care of my family, so I’ve got to do what I’ve got to do,” Reed said.

Asked about his fear of long-term damage, Reed said, “It comes into my mind sometimes, but I pray a lot and I’ve got faith in the Lord that I’ll be all right, so that’s how I think.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-ravens-game/

To say 5 or 6 concussions for a 4th year player is not a concern is just plain silly. He seems to understand the risk vs reward and right now, he views the risk as a necessary element for providing for his family. A few years from now and another concussion or two .. maybe the scales tip towards retirement.
I think we all agree we wish him the best and hope Burfict doesnt cheap shot him in London.

The man upstairs is his doctor...no worries, he'll be fine

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The man upstairs is his doctor...no worries, he'll be fine

Rite.....and he has to take care of his family? Dudes already made more than i will for the rest of my life. Please.

[Defensewins]

Yes, if Jordan Reed does not care about his future health and cares more about the money, that is his choice to make. Nobody can make that decision for him.
But the team can decide as some point that enough is enough.
It is scientifically proven that your brain become more susceptible to concussion with each subsequent concussion. Your brain becomes weaker and more loose in your head, you do not recover from that or have a surgery to correct it like a loose joint.
If things continue on their current track there will reach a point that his concussions will be more and more frequent. He will miss more time and the team may decide they do want to invest a multi-Million dollar salary cap slot on a player that if you breath on him too heavy will get a concussion and miss significant time.
That is when it becomes ok for the FO and skins fans to talk about this serious situation.
Yes, today Reed is probably ok and for now on his way to recovery. But a 26 year old having at least 6 concussions and he plays NFL football, it is probable that he will get hit hard on the head again soon and this repeats.
I hope he is smart enough to start looking now at optional careers after football.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

<sigh> It's been a while since I have been Schneeded.

Yes. He's going to play because, for now, he can choose to do so without it affecting his play. To me, given his history with concussions and his general injury history, he seems to have a little of the "eggshell" effect - one of those guys who just gets injured. Further, because of that, I think it very possible he will get his bell rung one to many times with the result that his physical ability to play will become impaired.

In terms of players forced out due to concussive effects, two come to mind. Jahvid Best and Jovan Belcher. Of course, no one was talking about concussive effects being a factor until recently and the cumulative effects of multiple concussions has only recently been discussed at the NFL levels. In the case of Belcher, it wasn't until they exhumed his body and founds signs of CTE that the role of concussions in his murder-suicide was even considered.

Have players been cut b/c they weren't as sharp as they once were? Are there symptoms we recognize now that weren't obvious before this discussion began? Bottom line is that, we don't know how many careers were cut short by concussive effects b/c no one was really checking that. While generally occurring later in life, some concussive effects can have permanent or live altering effects after even after a second such event.



AANS - Concussion

Then there's this: 11 NFL Careers Cut Short By Concussions

Just b/c it is only recently that this issue has gotten attention doesn't mean players weren't affected by it previously. Because concussions effect everyone differently, and not every head trauma is the same, I suspect that, for every guy who has played through 15-20 concussions with no ill-effects, there are guys who are never the same after the first couple. There is simply no way to know how many players' careers were ended "against their will" b/c of concussions for the simple reason that, before 2010 or so, it was not a matter of public attention. Guys who had their "bell-rung" one too many times were likely cut with little or no fanfare.

I concede you one point. Much depends on the willingness of the player to play on despite numerous concussions. At the same time, you want to pretend that concussions can never have a progressive effect on a player's physical abilities and cut his NFL career short? Well, that's just obstinate Schneeding.

Holy blah blah blah.

Dude, you found an article saying there are 11 out of the thousands of players who have played in the NFL over that period. If he's willing to play through it, as he said he has, there's very little reason to believe he'll be one of the very rare folks to be forced out due to brain health.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned for him. Never did I brush it aside. I'm "Schneeding" this asinine idea that he may not play another down (AW) and that this may shorten his career. That's a bridge too far.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

. , there's very little reason to believe he'll be one of the very rare folks to be forced out due to brain health.

.

Do you think there are many guys so early on in their careers that have already suffered so many concussions? Maybe there are? His particular situation would appear to me as a bit extreme at this point....

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Do you think there are many guys so early on in their careers that have already suffered so many concussions? Maybe there are? His particular situation would appear to me as a bit extreme at this point....

Show me some data to support that statement.

[CRedskinsRule]

Overreaction city actually has a population of 2. IMO Reed should retire. Not because the 6th concussion in and of itself demands it, but because his future self and life is worth it.

If he has had 6 concussions in his NFL career, how many did he have in college? HS? How many more will he have before one sets him down by it's choosing and not his own.

If he chooses to play I will cheer at every first down he pulls out.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Show me some data to support that statement.

What that 6 concussions in year four is a lot?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Overreaction city actually has a population of 2. IMO Reed should retire. Not because the 6th concussion in and of itself demands it, but because his future self and life is worth it.

If he has had 6 concussions in his NFL career, how many did he have in college? HS? How many more will he have before one sets him down by it's choosing and not his own.

If he chooses to play I will cheer at every first down he pulls out.

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.



He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid.

I hear what you are saying completely. It is ultimately up to the player. Remember that only recently did the nfl make this a serious issue though. Therefore there probably isn't a whole lot of data on guys retiring early because of it. All the old timers found out after they were already effed up. You have a few that have walked away since so much light was cast on the problem. As research becomes clearer and these guys make more money faster you will see more make that decision.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I hear what you are saying completely. It is ultimately up to the player. Remember that only recently did the nfl make this a serious issue though. Therefore there probably isn't a whole lot of data on guys retiring early because of it. All the old timers found out after they were already effed up. You have a few that have walked away since so much light was cast on the problem. As research becomes clearer and these guys make more money faster you will see more make that decision.

All fair assumptions to make. But probably not applicable to Jordan Reed specifically, since he said he plans to continue playing.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid[/B].

Since there really isn't any reliable data on player concussions over the last 50 years, you have a wonderful world of denial built for yourself.

Simple question:
Can multiple concussions over a period of few years affect a player's physical abilities?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid.

I reiterate, no one has said that on this thread.

So what?
This is a discussion board, we're discussing, or stating opinions and making future predictions, thats what sports fans do.

[skinsfaninok]

Doesn't look like he'll play

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[skinsfan69]

Reed is making an 8 figure salary. If we were in his shoes we'd keep playing and worry about the health risks later. He only has a short period of time where he can make his money. This isn't golf. Get your money Jordan and prey you're ok later on in life.