Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

He only has 1 year left on his deal and he isn't starting there next year. Probably could get him for like a 4th. You can always trade down with one of your other picks to recoup any lost ones.

You're assuming that Cousins isn't going to be here. I'd say let that play itself out.

[Meks]

Sadly, i think he's done here in his own mind. Can't fault him. I think he could succeed with the right team around him. This year? We don't have the right team around him. 7-9 or 8-8 is the outcome i feel of this year through 6 games, my hopes was 10-6 but my reality guess was 7-9 or 8-8 so ... whie im dissapointed, im not surprised really. Kirk is a good qb, but the more i go through with this with him... I JUST DONT SEE THE PLAYMAKER ABILITY THAT THIS TEAM NEEDS TO WIN... he's a good qb, and maybe he gets better, i just dont think he gets over that hill with this franchise sadly. Good dude, class act, good qb with potential, but i think yes, he's done here after this year.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You're assuming that Cousins isn't going to be here. I'd say let that play itself out.

My original post said if we don't resign Cousins. This would be my backup plqn.

[over the mountain]

What's next in the uneasy marriage between Kirk Cousins and the Redskins - NFL

Good, long read on Kirk. Surprised ESPN still produces actual journalism pieces.

[REDSKINS4ever]

No....I don't think Cousins is done by a long shot....the front office believes firmly that he's the guy.... he's proven he can play....

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by mredskins

What's next in the uneasy marriage between Kirk Cousins and the Redskins - NFL

Interesting,if I was KC I go to another team. I am sure he wants to. I am more of a KC fan then a Skins fan to be honest, my fanhood might just follow him to his next team.

As long as its not a california team I'm with you!! tired of the deadskins anymore..they suck because the owner built them that way! I am actually enjoying them losing because I know how much it is hurting Snyder..suffer on Danny boy. IT'S YOUR BABY! Letting BOTH Starting Wideouts leave last year was maybe the WORST front office move in the league.
Cousins is a good person first and foremost and a way above average QB who will continue to play well wherever he goes.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

As long as its not a california team I'm with you!! tired of the deadskins anymore..they suck because the owner built them that way! I am actually enjoying them losing because I know how much it is hurting Snyder..suffer on Danny boy. IT'S YOUR BABY! Letting BOTH Starting Wideouts leave last year was maybe the WORST front office move in the league.
Cousins is a good person first and foremost and a way above average QB who will continue to play well wherever he goes.

Bye Felicia.

[MTK]

If you enjoy watching your team lose you’re just an asshole. Find another hobby.

[SouperMeister]

Kirk will be a solid, competent QB for someone. He doesn't warrant being the highest paid player in the league, but Bruce botched this two years ago, when he could have signed him long term for $20M per year/$60M guaranteed. That would be such a bargain today. Now it will probably take $28M per year/$100M guaranteed. Thanks, Bruce.

[Schneed10]

Max Kellerman said it really well yesterday. You won't win the Super Bowl because of Kirk Cousins but you can win the Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins.

He's not the Rodgers / Brady type of QB who elevates the play of those around him. But Super Bowls have been won by worse quarterbacks because they had a complete team around them.

The thing we have to ask ourselves, in the salary cap era, how hard is it to put together that complete team around Cousins if Cousins is being paid top dollar? It's a shitty decision to have to make - I think the answer is doing that is extremely hard. It's also extremely hard to find a new QB who can do what Cousins can do, let alone who can do what Rodgers or Brady can do.

Compounding it all is the obstacle we face in our own division - Dak and Wentz are on their rookie deals yet already are among the top 10 in the league. It's a tough position and I'm afraid there's no good answer besides getting very lucky in the draft - either draft the next big QB or keep Cousins and hit on a whole bunch of middle rounders who turn to be stars.

Like I said, it's hard.

[MTK]

FFS has there ever been a more worn out topic than this??

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Max Kellerman said it really well yesterday. You won't win the Super Bowl because of Kirk Cousins but you can win the Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins.

He's not the Rodgers / Brady type of QB who elevates the play of those around him. But Super Bowls have been won by worse quarterbacks because they had a complete team around them.

The thing we have to ask ourselves, in the salary cap era, how hard is it to put together that complete team around Cousins if Cousins is being paid top dollar? It's a shitty decision to have to make - I think the answer is doing that is extremely hard. It's also extremely hard to find a new QB who can do what Cousins can do, let alone who can do what Rodgers or Brady can do.

Compounding it all is the obstacle we face in our own division - Dak and Wentz are on their rookie deals yet already are among the top 10 in the league. It's a tough position and I'm afraid there's no good answer besides getting very lucky in the draft - either draft the next big QB or keep Cousins and hit on a whole bunch of middle rounders who turn to be stars.

Like I said, it's hard.

That is exactly how i had it in my mind. You put it into words. Great job.

The reason above by S10 is why I don't really believe DS and BA are really the bad guys here. I don't blame them for asking KC to prove it each year. You can pay Brady/ Aaron that kind of money and have lesser talent else where and the dealt is covered but with KC he alone can't win you games with just his share talent. What drives the price up on KC is the lack of talent at his level plus the drop off of talent below him. Its a real tough situation. I think if you look at the Ravens right now they are a in a bit of a pickle they are in is because of Flacco's contract and his current ability to produce.

I almost think because how specialized the QB position is that the NFL should have a separate salary cap for the position that doesn't effect the rest of your teams salary cap.

In the end the real issue is just the share lack of quality QBing at the NFL level and it becomes a simple economic equation of supply and demand that sets their salary.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

FFS has there ever been a more worn out topic than this??

I hear you but its a move that will probably define this team for the next 5 to 10 years.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

FFS has there ever been a more worn out topic than this??

I get the exhaustion over the subject. But if you're the team's front office it needs to be thought about constantly. What to do at QB is the most impactful decision they have to make - it influences the entire approach for the next 5-10 years.

I honestly understand the argument to go in either direction - pay him top dollar or let him go. It's a challenge no matter which direction you choose.

It'd be easy if he was Carson Wentz. He's not.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by mredskins

That is exactly how i had it in my mind. You put it into words. Great job.

Credit for that wording goes to Max Kellerman. Like you, it immediately struck me - someone finally put their finger right on it.