Trading Patrick Ramsey

dmek25 · 11-07-2005, 03:42 PM

I read on Fox Sports that the Skins are considering trading Ramsey for John Abraham once the season ends. I don't know that much about Abraham. Would this be a good deal for the Skins?

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-07-2005, 03:48 PM

Um... YES.

BigSKINBauer · 11-07-2005, 03:50 PM

like i said in the other thread a few weeks ago that is what i was hoping for in the first place, we need agood DE and abraham=good DE
i never thought it was possible but if the want to, hey i am not complaining

Warpath · 11-07-2005, 03:53 PM

Damn the skins really love the Jets players huh...

MTK · 11-07-2005, 03:54 PM

The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

Big C · 11-07-2005, 03:56 PM

i agree, trading p ram (which to us is about nothing since hes a backup QB who has no future with us), for a guy like Abraham who is only 27, and a pro bowl caliber PASS RUSHING DE, this would be a great straight up trade

JWsleep · 11-07-2005, 03:56 PM

Link? I also doubt the Jets make that move--would be good for us, especially as Campbell develops. We'll see... we're only at week 9 yet.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 11-07-2005, 03:57 PM

they would be dumb but we would be very smart in the process. ramsey will not play for us ever again barring any type of injry . brunell will be the qb for the next couple of years then the reigns will be for campbell to take and i can not wait. abraham is a beast and with williams scheme he would be a hall of famer for us.

Carnage · 11-07-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

or desperate

#56fanatic · 11-07-2005, 04:00 PM

I would definately make that trade. Abraham is still young and has some years in him. Plus we are grooming Campbell for the future and having Ramsey would only hurt that progression. If the Jets go straight up, then that is one hell of deal. An unproven QB for a proven DE with good pass rushing skills. Jets would actually end up with the short end of that stick, but I will take it. I like Ramsey and hate to see him go, but its clear Gibbs doesn't think he can do the job. Plus Daniels seems to be hurt alot. He would probably be more productive and stay fresh if he was in a rotation. He could even play some DT, which he is big enough to do now.

Southpaw · 11-07-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnage

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72
The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

or desperate

I think desperate is closer to the truth. Chad Pennington is good, but he's going to be walking with a cane soon. He's as frail as an old lady. I'm sure many coaches have seen game film of the pounding that Ramsey took on a regular basis, but continued to get up and play. Herm Edwards is one of those coaches that believes in supporting his players, almost to a fault, and he probably thinks Ramsey could perform well, given the opportunity. Coles might be dropping hints to him also, since he was Ramseys' favorite target.

If Ramsey could develop into a solid, mid tier QB(Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, etc.), he would be far more valuable to the Jets than even a stud defensive end like Abraham.

Wanga Skins · 11-07-2005, 05:08 PM

It sounds great and all but what would the cap difference be? I know we need a pass rushing DE but we shouldn't break the bank for anybody.

offiss · 11-07-2005, 05:16 PM

Everyone forgets Abraham sitting out the playoffs last season because he said he didn't want to jeopordize his upcoming contract, sounds like a real Gibbs type player, teams just may have a more favorable opinion of Ramsey than we do.

Big C · 11-07-2005, 05:19 PM

thing is, it doesnt matter how good ramsey is in the future, he isnt going to do that here, so he is worth jack shit to us. even if we traded for abraham and we got like 5 sacks from him, it would be nice because we gave up someone who is worth nothing to us...just like kwame brown with the wizards. same thing. kwame wasnt going to do anything in washington, just like p ram isnt, so get what u can for him. something is better than nothing

saden1 · 11-07-2005, 05:20 PM

Abraham isn't going to be traded straight up and where is the salary he'll be seeking going to come from? I doubt we'll be able to pull it off.

p.s. I think Ramsey will be a Skin next year!

11-07-2005, 03:42 PM	#1
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Trading Patrick Ramsey I read on Fox Sports that the Skins are considering trading Ramsey for John Abraham once the season ends. I don't know that much about Abraham. Would this be a good deal for the Skins? Last edited by Sheriff Gonna Getcha; 11-07-2005 at 07:57 PM.

11-07-2005, 03:48 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: trading p ramsey Um... YES. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-07-2005, 03:50 PM	#3
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: trading p ramsey like i said in the other thread a few weeks ago that is what i was hoping for in the first place, we need agood DE and abraham=good DE i never thought it was possible but if the want to, hey i am not complaining

11-07-2005, 03:53 PM	#4
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 49 Posts: 1,762	Re: trading p ramsey Damn the skins really love the Jets players huh...

11-07-2005, 03:56 PM	#6
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: trading p ramsey i agree, trading p ram (which to us is about nothing since hes a backup QB who has no future with us), for a guy like Abraham who is only 27, and a pro bowl caliber PASS RUSHING DE, this would be a great straight up trade __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

11-07-2005, 03:54 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Re: trading p ramsey The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

11-07-2005, 03:56 PM	#7
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: trading p ramsey Link? I also doubt the Jets make that move--would be good for us, especially as Campbell develops. We'll see... we're only at week 9 yet. __________________ Hail from Houston!

11-07-2005, 03:57 PM	#8
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Queens Village, NY Age: 45 Posts: 349	Re: trading p ramsey they would be dumb but we would be very smart in the process. ramsey will not play for us ever again barring any type of injry . brunell will be the qb for the next couple of years then the reigns will be for campbell to take and i can not wait. abraham is a beast and with williams scheme he would be a hall of famer for us.

11-07-2005, 04:00 PM	#10
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: trading p ramsey I would definately make that trade. Abraham is still young and has some years in him. Plus we are grooming Campbell for the future and having Ramsey would only hurt that progression. If the Jets go straight up, then that is one hell of deal. An unproven QB for a proven DE with good pass rushing skills. Jets would actually end up with the short end of that stick, but I will take it. I like Ramsey and hate to see him go, but its clear Gibbs doesn't think he can do the job. Plus Daniels seems to be hurt alot. He would probably be more productive and stay fresh if he was in a rotation. He could even play some DT, which he is big enough to do now.

11-07-2005, 05:08 PM	#12
Wanga Skins Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Westminster, MD Age: 46 Posts: 135	Re: trading p ramsey It sounds great and all but what would the cap difference be? I know we need a pass rushing DE but we shouldn't break the bank for anybody.

11-07-2005, 05:16 PM	#13
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: trading p ramsey Everyone forgets Abraham sitting out the playoffs last season because he said he didn't want to jeopordize his upcoming contract, sounds like a real Gibbs type player, teams just may have a more favorable opinion of Ramsey than we do.

11-07-2005, 05:19 PM	#14
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: trading p ramsey thing is, it doesnt matter how good ramsey is in the future, he isnt going to do that here, so he is worth jack shit to us. even if we traded for abraham and we got like 5 sacks from him, it would be nice because we gave up someone who is worth nothing to us...just like kwame brown with the wizards. same thing. kwame wasnt going to do anything in washington, just like p ram isnt, so get what u can for him. something is better than nothing __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

11-07-2005, 05:20 PM	#15
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: trading p ramsey Abraham isn't going to be traded straight up and where is the salary he'll be seeking going to come from? I doubt we'll be able to pull it off. p.s. I think Ramsey will be a Skin next year!

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