Name Reveal 2.2.22

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I guess maybe it's my phone then. But when I go from one page to another for NFL avatars I see a lot of duplicates. I definitely don't see all 32 teams. That's weird. I don't seem to have that issue on anything else here.

tab your photo on the main page, then when the icons come up there is a drop down window and you can select a team icon.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by MTK

Don't we have enough birds in the league anyway? Also I think they want to stay away from anything that could be possibly misconstrued as racist, now or in the future. So that means no to any colors in the name.

I was unaware that there was some kind of quota in the NFL for bird names. 5 of 32 does not strike me as excessive.

As to your second point, it took some very 'magical' thinking to state Redskins was a racist name. But sillier notions have prevailed, humans are imperfect and prone to hysteria, and this is where we are.

But to think that anyone could seriously state that Redhawk is racist is going way beyond magical thinking and deep into the realm of absolute stupidity.

And, as I have state over and over, there is precedent and those that preceded us have offered help:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...on-name-issue/

[MTK]

Was it really "magical" though? I mean, an expansion team starting up today wouldn't touch the name Redskins. In order to future proof the name, I think avoiding colors in the name is the smart move.

Either way, that issue is over and done for me. Time to move forward.

I think Commanders makes the most sense. It can tie into the military as well as a nod to politics in DC. It's generic and not offensive even with the most magical of thinking.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mredskins

tab your photo on the main page, then when the icons come up there is a drop down window and you can select a team icon.

Yeah, that's what I do. It says there are 76 icons. Quite a few are for the same teams.

For example, I don't see a Jets, Lions, Dolphins, Jaguars, Patriots, Saints, Steelers, Seahawks, or Raiders avatar.

I'm not saying they aren't there, they just don't appear when I look on my phone. I'll try looking from a computer later.

[SunnySide]

Im calling them Skins now and probably for a long long time.

IM sure over time, maybe 3 decades, Ill start to call them the Admirals but until then, it seems foreign to me.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by MTK

Was it really "magical" though? I mean, an expansion team starting up today wouldn't touch the name Redskins. In order to future proof the name, I think avoiding colors in the name is the smart move.

Either way, that issue is over and done for me. Time to move forward.

I think Commanders makes the most sense. It can tie into the military as well as a nod to politics in DC. It's generic and not offensive even with the most magical of thinking.

Magical if not delusional. The indigenous peoples of the Americas do not have red colored skin. I would think that obvious, but there's that magical thinking again.

We are moving forward. We are not discussing bringing Redskins back. We are discussing what would be the best name and that is where you and I diverge radically.

I favor something that keys in on continuity and history. Something that can retain most of our logos, our fight song, and similar. The advantage to that is we move forward without completely jettisoning the past. The change is minor, nontraumatic, and gets us well away from the woke's crosshairs.

You favor a complete makeover from top to bottom. You are getting an NFL expansion team in all but name (pun intended). The only link to the past will be .... <drum roll> .... Daniel Snyder. In essence, you will be rooting for a team with a USFL sounding name owned by a scuzz. Frankly, I do not see any appeal in that.

Now, don't get me wrong. If you are cool with that, more power to you. But imho if we are getting a new team, why not choose a new team like Green Bay which is run by people of a serious nature?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Im calling them Skins now and probably for a long long time.

IM sure over time, maybe 3 decades, Ill start to call them the Admirals but until then, it seems foreign to me.

Pigskins would have been a good name too.

Washington Pigskins.

[Summo]

Originally Posted by MTK

Was it really "magical" though? I mean, an expansion team starting up today wouldn't touch the name Redskins. In order to future proof the name, I think avoiding colors in the name is the smart move.

Either way, that issue is over and done for me. Time to move forward.

I think Commanders makes the most sense. It can tie into the military as well as a nod to politics in DC. It's generic and not offensive even with the most magical of thinking.

AMEN! I'm tired of the whining about the old name. I have it tattooed into my arm for Christ's sake and I'm ready to move on!

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Summo

AMEN! I'm tired of the whining about the old name. I have it tattooed into my arm for Christ's sake and I'm ready to move on!

That is hall of fame vintage now!

[Summo]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

That is hall of fame vintage now!

LOL, true.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by Summo

AMEN! I'm tired of the whining about the old name. I have it tattooed into my arm for Christ's sake and I'm ready to move on!

Nobody is whining about anything. He implied Redhawks of all things might be construed as racist. I simply offered a polite response.

It is rather hard to discuss our impending new name without occasionally referencing the old one. That does not amount to whining.

As for your arm, best get that removed if you really are serious about moving on.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm really not a big fan of Commanders or Admirals, etc. But what is wrong with celebrating our military / military history?

If you want to cheer for endless wars that send our young men to die for no cause other then to line the pockets of our oligarchs, and drone strikes that kill innocent children, then have at it. You have a right to your own opinion, but I am squarely on the other side of that issue.

If the name was the Militia or Continental's or something similar and was clearly not associated with the modern day military industrial complex, I could get behind it. That's not what they're going for.

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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by WillH

If you want to cheer for endless wars that send our young men to die for no cause other then to line the pockets of our oligarchs, and drone strikes that kill innocent children, then have at it. You have a right to your own opinion, but I am squarely on the other side of that issue.

If the name was the Militia or Continental's or something similar and was clearly not associated with the modern day military industrial complex, I could get behind it. That's not what they're going for.

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As a Vet myself I can't be mad at your feelings towards this but just be mindful of others on here. I've lost men and women that served with me. This is a VERY SENSITVE subject to many.

[OnceWeWereKings]

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by JackLord

Nobody is whining about anything. He implied Redhawks of all things might be construed as racist. I simply offered a polite response.

It is rather hard to discuss our impending new name without occasionally referencing the old one. That does not amount to whining.

As for your arm, best get that removed if you really are serious about moving on.

I'm just trying to think from the team's perspective and why they would want to avoid putting red in the name again. I think they want to start fresh and not give anyone the chance to misconstrue the name again. They're keeping the colors, so that's the tie to the past. The use and meaning of words change over time, what's harmless today might not be down the road. Redtails sounds harmless enough today, who knows down the line. I know it sounds crazy but I'd guarantee that's part of their thinking.