Fire Gregg Williams and Al Saunders

chris36 · 11-12-2006, 05:01 PM

This is the worst defense I have ever seen, the Redskins, put on the field. I cant believe the terrible decsions that have been made on personel. I have never felt good about Williams system. It always seemedto me that we were vulnerable to the big play. We just got lucky in many cases like we did against the Cowgirls.

Redskins_P · 11-12-2006, 05:03 PM

Lets just fire everyone

chris36 · 11-12-2006, 05:04 PM

This is the worst defense, I have ever seen, the Redskins, put on the field. I cant believe the terrible decsions that have been made on personel. I have never felt good about Williams system. It always seemedto me that we were vulnerable to the big play. We just got lucky in many cases, like we did against the Cowgirls. As far as Saunders goes, I dont like how much bull shit they run, either.

skinsguy · 11-12-2006, 05:04 PM

Good grief....can we fire fans?

illdefined · 11-12-2006, 05:04 PM

how bout changing a couple key positions on the field FIRST, before firing the whole organization?

skinsguy · 11-12-2006, 05:05 PM

Dude....why are you posting multiple threads under the same title. Stick to one thread...

Redskins_P · 11-12-2006, 05:05 PM

chris36 you should get fired...

Agentenders · 11-12-2006, 05:06 PM

NO WAY! Gregg Williams' system worked pretty well last year...it just that this year we don't have the DBs to allow a blitz!

Al Saunders' offense also cannot be learned overnight! It takes time and it has been proven if you look at the KC Chiefs' offensive history. And that was without superstar receivers like we're supposed to have.

chris36 · 11-12-2006, 05:11 PM

I dont like the big corner theory and I am pissed that we are stuck with Archuleta. Sorry for the second post, it was an accident.

JWsleep · 11-12-2006, 05:24 PM

No, don't. Play better with what ya got. We are underachieving across the board (well, maybe the D has come back to reality after over-achieveing, but whatever). These are good coaches. Changing coaches, especially Saunders, in his first year and playing with a weak-ass QB, only causes more turmoil.

We aren't going to fix this with Danny's checkbook or a quick-fix firing. It's going to take some serious work, I'm afraid. I feel like the offense with a real QB can do some damage. THe D may need a few new bodies, but we know the they can play better (they have in the past). We just don't seem to beleive we can win, and when everyone sees MB go out there and throw the -9 yard pass, you can see why. It's demoralizing across the board.

JWsleep · 11-12-2006, 05:30 PM

Merge--exactly the same thread title. Don't know who went first. Everyone is making bad plays today, even here on the warpath!

jdlea · 11-12-2006, 05:31 PM

I don't think there's a reason to come out and start firing coaches. However, Brian Mitchell made an interesting point on Redskins Post Game Live. He said that it's time for Gibbs to start laying into guys. He said he was sick of hearing Gibbs blame losses on himself when the team's not playhing well and are making bonehead mistakes. He shared a story about one time when he showed up late to a meeting: Gibbs said, "You're a man now. If you wanna remain on this team you'll start showing up."

I agree. I don't think Gibbs is holding these guys as accountable as he should be. He needs to start pulling guys or screaming at them when they mess up. I don't think this nice guy routine works when you have a whole bunch of guys who think they are stars. Stop coddling this team and start kicking some ass...oh yeah...and bench Mark Brunell!

Big C · 11-12-2006, 05:31 PM

lets see what saunders can do with a different qb who he trusts (campbell, or even collins at this point) we know he trusts collins at least

JWsleep · 11-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris36

I dont like the big corner theory and I am pissed that we are stuck with Archuleta. Sorry for the second post, it was an accident.

At least you didn't throw a 70 yard INT for a touchdown! Or a minus-9 yard pass. Then you'd be in trouble here!

skins052bgr8 · 11-12-2006, 05:34 PM

This has nothing to do with Gregg Williams or Al Saunders. It is the damn players, Gregg Williams did not bite on the pass to Stallworth, he didn't design a defense that allowed a freak ass fumble for another big score. Al Saunders does not throw the ball 3-7 yards 90% of the time, he did not throw the ball to Lito Sheppard for another score. Get off the coaches as the problem both proven coordinators.

11-12-2006, 05:01 PM	#1
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Fire Gregg Williams and Al Saunders This is the worst defense I have ever seen, the Redskins, put on the field. I cant believe the terrible decsions that have been made on personel. I have never felt good about Williams system. It always seemedto me that we were vulnerable to the big play. We just got lucky in many cases like we did against the Cowgirls.

11-12-2006, 05:03 PM	#2
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I Lets just fire everyone

11-12-2006, 05:04 PM	#3
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I This is the worst defense, I have ever seen, the Redskins, put on the field. I cant believe the terrible decsions that have been made on personel. I have never felt good about Williams system. It always seemedto me that we were vulnerable to the big play. We just got lucky in many cases, like we did against the Cowgirls. As far as Saunders goes, I dont like how much bull shit they run, either.

11-12-2006, 05:04 PM	#4
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I Good grief....can we fire fans? __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-12-2006, 05:04 PM	#5
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 49 Posts: 2,631	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I how bout changing a couple key positions on the field FIRST, before firing the whole organization? __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

11-12-2006, 05:05 PM	#6
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I Dude....why are you posting multiple threads under the same title. Stick to one thread... __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-12-2006, 05:06 PM	#8
Agentenders Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 7	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I NO WAY! Gregg Williams' system worked pretty well last year...it just that this year we don't have the DBs to allow a blitz! Al Saunders' offense also cannot be learned overnight! It takes time and it has been proven if you look at the KC Chiefs' offensive history. And that was without superstar receivers like we're supposed to have.

11-12-2006, 05:11 PM	#9
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I I dont like the big corner theory and I am pissed that we are stuck with Archuleta. Sorry for the second post, it was an accident.

11-12-2006, 05:24 PM	#10
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I No, don't. Play better with what ya got. We are underachieving across the board (well, maybe the D has come back to reality after over-achieveing, but whatever). These are good coaches. Changing coaches, especially Saunders, in his first year and playing with a weak-ass QB, only causes more turmoil. We aren't going to fix this with Danny's checkbook or a quick-fix firing. It's going to take some serious work, I'm afraid. I feel like the offense with a real QB can do some damage. THe D may need a few new bodies, but we know the they can play better (they have in the past). We just don't seem to beleive we can win, and when everyone sees MB go out there and throw the -9 yard pass, you can see why. It's demoralizing across the board. __________________ Hail from Houston!

11-12-2006, 05:30 PM	#11
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I Merge--exactly the same thread title. Don't know who went first. Everyone is making bad plays today, even here on the warpath! __________________ Hail from Houston!

11-12-2006, 05:31 PM	#12
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I I don't think there's a reason to come out and start firing coaches. However, Brian Mitchell made an interesting point on Redskins Post Game Live. He said that it's time for Gibbs to start laying into guys. He said he was sick of hearing Gibbs blame losses on himself when the team's not playhing well and are making bonehead mistakes. He shared a story about one time when he showed up late to a meeting: Gibbs said, "You're a man now. If you wanna remain on this team you'll start showing up." I agree. I don't think Gibbs is holding these guys as accountable as he should be. He needs to start pulling guys or screaming at them when they mess up. I don't think this nice guy routine works when you have a whole bunch of guys who think they are stars. Stop coddling this team and start kicking some ass...oh yeah...and bench Mark Brunell!

11-12-2006, 05:31 PM	#13
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I lets see what saunders can do with a different qb who he trusts (campbell, or even collins at this point) we know he trusts collins at least __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

11-12-2006, 05:34 PM	#15
skins052bgr8 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Richmond, Va. Age: 49 Posts: 288	Re: Fire Gregg Williams and Al Suanders I This has nothing to do with Gregg Williams or Al Saunders. It is the damn players, Gregg Williams did not bite on the pass to Stallworth, he didn't design a defense that allowed a freak ass fumble for another big score. Al Saunders does not throw the ball 3-7 yards 90% of the time, he did not throw the ball to Lito Sheppard for another score. Get off the coaches as the problem both proven coordinators.

Fire Gregg Williams and Al Saunders

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