Wtf Dan.........this Is A Joke Right?

[skinsfan242]

[quote=freddyg12;302229]

Originally Posted by dmek25

but the article isn't from fantasy sports - its a copy of a wash post article by Jason LaConfora who does a really good job of getting info. from Redskins park.

I do agree that it could be smoke & mirrors, but the team may in fact be offering Springs. That's the real "news" in the story to me.

Did ANYONE actually watch yesterday when the talked about the draft? It sure seems like they are most likely staying at 6 and don't want to give away any picks next year. The said they are going to be sitting there at 6 and seeing if anyone calls. Listening to rumors this week really means nothing, I'm sure Gibbs has told his team not to listen to anything, any player is always mentioned with the redskins. They say we like a player and all of sudden every news source says we are going to trade the farm for that player. I can't wait till this is over and everyone is just like wow the Skins actually traded down or drafted 6th and Springs is still here. Gibbs is not dumb he is not going to give away everything for one player, the Duckett deal was bad but they were very worried about the backfield at that point.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

I've got a bad feeling that the Skins are about to blow this draft and their future. The defensive line has been a problem since Snyder has been the owner. I don't care if the Skins move up in the draft, move down or even stay put, but they better draft a defensive lineman. I would prefer Amobi Okoye, but with all these horrible rumors, any of the top five defensive lineman would be ok with me. If they pick up a player in a position they don't need, I'll be sick.

I agree.....And statements coming from Snyder, Gibbs, and Cerrato leaves one with the impression that their intention is to draft the best player available regardless of position. In the Redskins situation, this to me does not make much sense unless it's their desire to see a repeat performance of last year. They pointed to the additions of Fletcher, and Smoot, but those two players are not enough to make the 31st ranked defense appreciatively better.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

You think Detroit would trade completely out of the first round for Shawn Springs and a 2008 first round pick? That is what at least two people on here have implied. You must mean they would consider the #6 pick, a 2008 first rounder, and Springs. I think Tampa could pony up more than that, though, as I believe they have multiple 2nd round picks.

I thought we were talking about swapping picks with Springs AND next year's.

[freddyg12]

[quote=skinsfan242;302238]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Did ANYONE actually watch yesterday when the talked about the draft? It sure seems like they are most likely staying at 6 and don't want to give away any picks next year. The said they are going to be sitting there at 6 and seeing if anyone calls. Listening to rumors this week really means nothing, I'm sure Gibbs has told his team not to listen to anything, any player is always mentioned with the redskins. They say we like a player and all of sudden every news source says we are going to trade the farm for that player. I can't wait till this is over and everyone is just like wow the Skins actually traded down or drafted 6th and Springs is still here. Gibbs is not dumb he is not going to give away everything for one player, the Duckett deal was bad but they were very worried about the backfield at that point.

My point is that JLC would not report a "rumor" that we offered Springs. Here's the quote:
"the team has shopped cornerback Shawn Springs to Detroit, which has the second overall pick, again in recent weeks"

JLC would only print that if he had a confirmed source from the skins or detroit. so if its a rumor, its being started by one of the teams. We went through this before w/the briggs deal. Gibbs said it was a rumor but then both teams confirmed a deal had been offered.

Yes, Gibbs & co. want to keep everybody guessing but if the Lions were willing to take Springs (& some cap relief as we wanted Denver to) & swap #1 picks, I don't think that was just smoke & mirrors.

This is the 2nd time springs has come up in trade talks.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

The only interesting tidbit is that we are (supposedly) shopping Springs again. I have been convinced that Springs is going to be gone for some time, but do people feel comfortable with Smoot and Rogers starting at corner with Macklin in reserve?

Anyone that thinks that Smoot and Rogers are starting caliber corner backs and better than Springs is out of their mind. If someone argues that Ill wonder if they have ever watched football. Smoot was an awesome pickup, so was Macklin, but as a 3rd and 4th corner. We need insurance if Spings and Rogers get hurt again. Macklin has as good of a chance as starting as Rogers does if he doestn step it up.

[firstdown]

Snyder Said That We Have To Make The Best, The Best Pick At Number Six, At Number Six, Again At Number Six.

Hey I typed this in all bold what happened.

[GMScud]

Amobi Okoye.

Dammit, I signed on for the self-imposed ban on draft talk. I guess I just don't have the willpower.

[firstdown]

Dan also stated that they always take a look at top draft picks. It also said that in the past weeks Springs was shoped so this nothing new.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Anyone that thinks that Smoot and Rogers are starting caliber corner backs and better than Springs is out of their mind. If someone argues that Ill wonder if they have ever watched football. Smoot was an awesome pickup, so was Macklin, but as a 3rd and 4th corner. We need insurance if Spings and Rogers get hurt again. Macklin has as good of a chance as starting as Rogers does if he doestn step it up.

I agree, would hate to see Springs go, but it cetainly looks like they are trying to move him. NOt to mention, he was ok w/going to denver, so it may be a mutual decision.

In that case, Denver wouldn't pick up any cap relief & that's what killed the deal as I recall. I think if they get a team to take some of the cap hit, he'll be gone.

[themightyjoegibbs]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Anyone that thinks that Smoot and Rogers are starting caliber corner backs and better than Springs is out of their mind. If someone argues that Ill wonder if they have ever watched football. Smoot was an awesome pickup, so was Macklin, but as a 3rd and 4th corner. We need insurance if Spings and Rogers get hurt again. Macklin has as good of a chance as starting as Rogers does if he doestn step it up.

Well thats the fact we have to come to terms with. This Franchise has been mishandled since Snyder took over. Our draft status hasnt been good in years. Bad business has landed us here.

What is really going on is simply trying to ride the storm. We have to make due with what is. Smoot Rogers Macklin are as good as we are going to get. Springs is not returning to his old form he is formed old. Help is not on the way. Our draft is limited till next year, so we cant look for insurance-thats the price we pay for being an over budget hype buying/trading team. What we have to prove is that a team can sustain itself with poor front office leadership. Their at it again with this article. We simply have to follow the lead that they show and simply roll the dice w/o a backup plan. We are the Redskins- What can possibly happen to embarrass us that hasn't for the past 8 years????? What are we gonna hire Spurrier, Jeff George, Shane Matthews and 5 pages of other screw ups???!! (Same game different names) Its time we accept our problems for one season and see where it takes us. I think the answer truly is building through the draft. They know it but they rather use the draft as bargaining tools.

We will come out on top or face another season of being a Skins fans. I've been dragged through the gutter too much to feel shocked about shame.

[GusFrerotte]

God Damn!!!!!!!!! WE do not need another WR on this team!!!!!!! We have on paper the best WR corp in the NFL. All we need is for Llyod and even Randle to up the production(really just Llyod) and a big part of that(lack of production) was just trying to get the system down and MB's noodle arm. We desperately need a defensive lineman or two in the draft. If we got a bit crazy and picked up Landry I wouldn't be too pissed, but we do not need a WR, especially if we have to give up more 1st round picks. Since we go from 1st round to 5th round this draft is almost a waste except for the first rounder, so we need to make sure this guy is going to help us to the max. The only positions we should even be thinking about acquiring are DE, DT, S, G, or even another CB. First round WR's do not have a very good history as of late. All you have to do is look at the sorry ass Lions. Get a guy that can really contribute on every down on the side of the ball he plays on. We don't need another WR, when we have a full stable of thoroughbreds!!!!!!

[DieHardSince76]

This is another deal (see Lance Briggs) that makes no sense. It has the Danny's fingerprints all over it.