Who do you think had the best draft?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Best drafts:

Cleveland-Quinn and Thomas were the top two guys on my board. IMO, this could be the greatest first round duo in history. Time will tell if they would have been in position next year to land Henne or Brohm in the first round, but the year of NFL experience that Quinn will have over them between will make a big difference between now and 2010.

Houston-Amobi Okoye at #10 is highway robbery. I think some of the value that is Matt Schaub has to be considered in this draft for them.

Arizona-They only had 5 picks, but they got Levi Brown, Alan Branch, and Ben Patrick in that haul. Buster Davis and Breaston aren't slouches either.

Jacksonville-Slid down and still landed Reggie Nelson in round one. Derek Landri was a huge steal on day 2 and by this time next year will be capable of replacing either Stroud or Henderson on a temporary basis and provide instant pass rush.

Kansas City-Landed a guy who has just as much potential as Calvin Johnson in Dwayne Bowe. Appear serious about improving the defense by grabbing two day 1 DL (Turk McBride, Tank Tyler).

Philadelphia-Kolb and Abiamiri will both be great NFL players. Kolb projects to the NFL even better than McNabb did--he will still have to wait his turn though.

ok thats stupid the eagles draft sucked took a qb in the second round who wasnt even the 3rd best one there and what about carolina

got jon beason in the first round after trading down and picking up dwayne jarrett at 45 when most people at one point had him going at pick 7-15 and getting the best center at pick 59 where everyone says that he will be a monster and multiple probowl player and then to get charles johnson as mike rucker replacement and getting him late in the 3rd round they got maximum value for every pick the panthers made a killing in the draft hands down best draft this year addressed every need except safety and that wasnt a pressing need anyways

[Monkeydad]

Buster's draft analysis

Good drafts:

*Cleveland. They made a genius move (helped by Miami's stupidity) by managing to get a top OL and Brady Quinn both in the first round. They got a lot of secondary depth too.

*The Raiders had a very good draft too, QB, RB, TE, WR...not enough OL though, so we'll have to see if all that firepower on offense can overcome a horrible line. My guess is no, but they did get a LOT of talent.

*The Cards did well with only a few picks. Levi Brown, Alan Branch and Buster Davis are all big picks.

*Titans with Griffin and RB Chris Henry have 2 solid starters with their first 2 picks.


Funny picks:

*The Lions chose Manny Ramirez in Round 4.
*The Bills have a guy who's jersey will say "Ah You" on the back. C.J. Ah You .



Dumb moves:

*Miami picking Ginn, Jr. He's NOT worth a #9 pick and although they need a new KR since losing Wes Welker...this was NOT the place to do it. They're also assuming Trent Green will be able to last a full season IF they can get him. I guess they're confident in Cleo Lemon.

*New Orleans picking Robert Meachem in Round 1. Meachem is good but NO is stacked with young talent at WR. They lost Horn, but he barely played last year anyways. I guess they have no other needs.

*Falcons passing on a good QB. They'll need a backup and MAYBE replacement for Vick if he gets in more legal trouble. They lost a capable backup/replacement and their only other QB on the roster is D.J. Shockley. They did get a good pick with Jamaal Anderson (ha, another Jamaal Anderson...).


AND, the Skins:

Landry is a GREAT pick and will make it pretty scary for WRs and TEs to play against us with him and Taylor back there ready to decapitate people. LB depth is no longer a problem. We have a great backup QB for the future since Brunell will retire soon and Todd Collins doesn't belong on an NFL roster. A backup TE was a nice bonus. We didn't address DL, but by the 4th Round, there weren't many good options left, so we filled other needs with some good valued-picks. I think we did very well with the picks we had for once.

[jbcjr14]

Im gonna say Cleveland had the best draft and then NE. Cleveland got EVERYTHING they wanted and more and NE added quality depth and Moss (damn, they are going to be dangerous if he decides to show up in 2007).

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Man, wouldn't that be a story -- I think more than anything else, what doomed Quinn was that more teams were actually solid with their quarterback situation than ever before.

There were questions about his accuracy, but you would think the fact that he was groomed by Charlie Weiss might have given him more of an edge than he actually got.

The accuracy issues surrounding Quinn are legitmate, and would be there at the NFL level, but when Quinn misses, its always low or in front of a guy. The dangerous places to miss that lead to INTs are high, and/or behind a guy. So while it's a legitimate criticism, it should not have any effect on his value whatsoever. You'd figure he would make up the inconsistencies in his completion percentage from accuracy by making the right read more often than most other QBs.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Buster

*The Raiders had a very good draft too, QB, RB, TE, WR...not enough OL though, so we'll have to see if all that firepower on offense can overcome a horrible line. My guess is no, but they did get a LOT of talent.

People seem to forget that this franchise takes a lot of OLineman every year. If some of the guys they took in 2006 pan out, their OL will improve immensely this year. It's not like they haven't been addressing it, it's just that the guys who played last year sucked.

[hooskins]

I mean the thing with Quinn is you cant draft him after 9 because Quinn is a starting QB in about a year. All those teams had stable QB issues, or already addressed it in FA. I dont think his stock slipped below 10 but his pick did because a team with a good starter and decent backup just cant draft him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I mean the thing with Quinn is you cant draft him after 9 because Quinn is a starting QB in about a year. All those teams had stable QB issues, or already addressed it in FA. I dont think his stock slipped below 10 but his pick did because a team with a good starter and decent backup just cant draft him.

I think that every team that needed a Qb and passed on him was making a big mistake. That includes Oakland, althought they get a pass for taking the top QB on their board...they don't know any better. Obviously, the Browns rectified their decision to pass on him in a big way. But Detriot, Minnesota, and Miami especially all made very questionable decisions to pass on him. Detroit ended up with their 4th WR in 5 years and Drew Stanton--so they are really going to regret passing on Quinn. They had a great value receiver in Mike Furrey who now gets screwed because Matt Millen is still a moron, and hasn't learned anything.

A lot of teams who passed him over in the middle rounds are going to regret it, especially Buffalo who took Trent Edwards in round 3, who isn't half the QB Quinn will be, yet shows that they aren't confident (nor should they be) in JP Losman.

As I said to my friend the other day, "When an entire league is collectively stupid at the same time, dynastys are born." Long live the Browns.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

People seem to forget that this franchise takes a lot of OLineman every year. If some of the guys they took in 2006 pan out, their OL will improve immensely this year. It's not like they haven't been addressing it, it's just that the guys who played last year sucked.

After giving up like 72 sacks last year, there's no where else OTHER than up to go for that line.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

ok thats stupid the eagles draft sucked took a qb in the second round who wasnt even the 3rd best one there and what about carolina

got jon beason in the first round after trading down and picking up dwayne jarrett at 45 when most people at one point had him going at pick 7-15 and getting the best center at pick 59 where everyone says that he will be a monster and multiple probowl player and then to get charles johnson as mike rucker replacement and getting him late in the 3rd round they got maximum value for every pick the panthers made a killing in the draft hands down best draft this year addressed every need except safety and that wasnt a pressing need anyways

Dude, Kolb was the 2nd best QB in this draft. Who knows, he might prove to be the best. He could conceivably be better than Quinn. He certainly won't be rushed behing McNabb.

I hate the Eagles, but I love the way they do things. They always land a bunch of value picks.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Buster

After giving up like 72 sacks last year, there's no where else OTHER than up to go for that line.

Well, yeah, and thats certainly part of my logic.

[hooskins]

Well you could say Philly fucked up by giving Dallas, a division rival, a good trade. I dont think they did too great beside the QB.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Well you could say Philly fucked up by giving Dallas, a division rival, a good trade. I dont think they did too great beside the QB.

I though Philly was money with both 2nd round draft picks. Like I mentioned before, in 4 years, it wouldn't shock me if Kolb is better than McNabb (like...ever was).


Kolb could be ready to play as early as next year, but likely has a long sit ahead of him. Which is fine because it will only serve to eliminate some of the early career mistakes from his game.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by budw38

I agree . Pitty those teams that passed on Quin if he is a franchise QB one day !

Poor Quinn got no lovin' from anyone on Saturday

YouTube - Brady Quinn, dump the girlfriend

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Dude, Kolb was the 2nd best QB in this draft. Who knows, he might prove to be the best. He could conceivably be better than Quinn. He certainly won't be rushed behing McNabb.

I hate the Eagles, but I love the way they do things. They always land a bunch of value picks.

who valued kolb as the 2nd best now u must be kidding he was 4th or 5th at best on my board
j russ was first
brady barbeque quinn was 2nd
drew why sit when u can be stanton was 3rd
and john beck was 4th then edwards and kolb

no offense but kolb sucked nuts and how was he valued to be better than mcnabb that was non-sense come on g tripp kolb no way man that was a dumb pick by them really stupid

[GMScud]

I've got four teams in mind- Denver, Buffalo, SF, and Cleveland.

I love Buffalo landing both Marshawn Lynch and Posluszny- both great players filling pressing needs. Plus they got Trent Edward to develop into a viable backup (maybe a starter soon) with Kelly Holcomb departing for Philly. And apparently that RB they got in the 4th round (Dwayne Wright?) was a steal.

Denver needed D-line help as badly as we did. They proceeded to get Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, and Marcus Thomas. WOW. Thomas was projected to be in the top half of the 1st rd if not for character issues. They are loaded at DL now, and man am I jealous.

San Fran- They got the best LB in the draft in Willis, the 3rd best tackle in Staley, two very solid D-lineman from Florida in McDonald and Cohen, and a good backup for Gore in Thomas Clayton. Not to mention a few good D-backs as well. They had a lot of picks and used them well.

Cleveland got Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn. That alone is awesome. Then they went out and a got Eric Wright who is probably better than Revis and Hall, but had the dreaded character issue. They picked up a few other names that slip my mind, but Quinn and Thomas are why they are on my list.