Michael Vick Update - Outside the Lines

[Slingin Sammy 33]

ESPN is having an Outside the Lines covering the dogfighting issue with an informant who will place Michael Vick at dogfights and claims he is a "heavyweight" of digfighting.

ESPN.com: Source: Vick a 'heavyweight' in dog fighting

ESPN.com - ESPN/OTL

[dmek25]

i saw the show, and think Vick must have pissed someone off. i would be surprised is he isn't suspended this season at some point. what a buffoon

[skinsfan_nn]

Yea, I saw it also, he's gettin ready to have a one on one with the Commish! That FOOL is next! I hope they hammer his ass, that Matt Schaub move isn't looking so smart right about now!

Also, that was some brutal dog fighting. ANYONE who finds that entertaining is a COMPLETE 100% PIECE OF SHIT!

[Longtimefan]

This is an ongoing investigation and I'm anxious to see what Poindexter is going to use for evidence to charge Vick. The informant's story sounded convincing, but unless he's willing to tell his story to a grand jury, it's worthless.

[GusFrerotte]

If what the informant says is true, Vick put a lot of money down on these fights also. Tens of thousands from what the article said. Thing is the DA still only has hersay evidence on Vick. Even if this guy testifies, it will still be hard to nail Vick. There has to be more than one person that comes forward to have Vick nailed for this. A few days ago the DA even admitted that he didn't have concrete evidence against Vick. But the plot thickens everyday with this one, so Vick might be toast when all of it comes out. I love how NFL Security offered to help with the investigation. All they would do would be to hinder it to cover their ass. It will be a black mark on the NFL if Vick goes down for this.

[skinsfan_nn]

I'll tell ya one thing Poindexter is dragging he feet, now he has alot of outside pressure to do his JOB. Being Vicks old place is very close to my home, there's TONS of evidence. It's getting these TARDS to tell the truth and Poin to do his damn JOB.

Around here it is very clear someone slipped old Poin some cash, hoping he could make this whole thing just blow over. IT'S NOT! Vicks own so called hoodlum buddies are even turning on him. That everywhere I go people love me shit ain't workin around his home town! Now what that means as far as charges go, anyones guess at this point. When it's all said and done I won't be suprised one bit to see Poin go BYE, BYE.

One thing is for sure this thing isn't going away, as Vick thought it was! Futhermore, the COMMISH can do what he feels is right, he doesn't need any formal charges to lay down a suspension.

[saden1]

People are so quick to judge. Let the law take its course. Vick might well be guilty but I don't think ESPN is exactly the cradle of journalistic integrity. This whole thing really reminds me of the Sean Taylor thing a few years back.

[mooby]

If Vick is guilty of these crimes, then once he goes to prison he'll be in there for a while. And once he gets out his playing days will be long gone. Watching the video of those dogs fighting made me sick. Anyone who enjoys that sort of cruelty to animals needs help.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I'll tell ya one thing Poindexter is dragging he feet, now he has alot of outside pressure to do his JOB. Being Vicks old place is very close to my home, there's TONS of evidence. It's getting these TARDS to tell the truth and Poin to do his damn JOB.

Articles in the Virginian Pilot have said there are witnesses that will put Vick on the property multiple times, recently, and others that will put him at a local pharmacy purchasing needles and drugs associated with dogfighting. There was also a case mentioned that was prosecuted with primarily circumstancial evidence which resulted in a 4 yr. conviction and the investigator from that case has offered his assistance.

I am pretty concerned that Poin has not moved quicker and I definitely agree with you about the "funny money" to make this disappear. Before this blew up in the national media, comments out of his office indicated there would be no charges filed. Now with the media firestorm he is in a position where he better charge someone or it will be his hind-quarters out to dry. I think that is why he is going to consult with the VA Attorney General's office to make sure they have his back before going forward. At this point (I'm trying to be positive) I hope his office is being thorough so that once charges are filed they will stick, and he won't look like an idiot if those charged (Vick or whomever) walk.

With that said, whether Vick is convicted or not, IMO he was involved in this. While he is never going to be broke, he will at the very least lose a majority of his endorsement $$$. I would love to see him convicted and do jail time.

[GusFrerotte]

Whatever happens, happens. Vick's rep is tarnished regardless. He is not the superstar everyone thought he should be. The Falcons were mediocre with Vick, now they just will plain suck!!!!!

[sportscurmudgeon]

You have to ask yourself why the Surrey County prosecutor has been so cautious about all of this and why he is trying to hand the entire matter off to someone else to do the investigation and the possible indicting.

MOST prosecutors dream of the day they can accuse someone famous of some kind of hideous crime. This dude wants to be deep in the shadows...

Makes me wonder if he has a couple of pit bulls that he trains to ...

[GusFrerotte]

He might just be nerovus about the blowback over prosecuting Vick. Might be thinking there might be considerable support for Vick, if he is brought to trial, possible death threats, and yes having his personal life pried into. He might not have dogs fighting, but if he has other skeletons in his closet they will be laid bare for all to see. My bet is he just doesn't want the spotlight on him and/or the case to become a major media event that turns out to be another OJ type joke trial.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

He might just be nerovus about the blowback over prosecuting Vick. Might be thinking there might be considerable support for Vick, if he is brought to trial, possible death threats, and yes having his personal life pried into. He might not have dogs fighting, but if he has other skeletons in his closet they will be laid bare for all to see. My bet is he just doesn't want the spotlight on him and/or the case to become a major media event.

If that was also Poin's bet, not wanting spotlight on himself first of all he picked the wrong occupation (which is very apparent to begin with) or the case to become a major media circus....? HE LOST THAT BET, BIG TIME, ABOUT A MONTH AGO!

[LMsexyAO]

I think the Duke lacrosse case is evidence enough that an over-eager prosecutor is FAR worse than a slow one. If Vick is found guilty, then I'm all for throwing the book at him, until then just let the investigation run its course.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

I think the Duke lacrosse case is evidence enough that an over-eager prosecutor is FAR worse than a slow one. If Vick is found guilty, then I'm all for throwing the book at him, until then just let the investigation run its course.

Well stated.