Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)

wilsowilso · 02-03-2008, 11:15 PM

This has to be a clear lesson to idiot GM's that the key to defense in today's NFL is having DE's that are freaks. What the Giants D did tonight was just straight up incredible.

diehardskin2982 · 02-03-2008, 11:35 PM

Spags will be our next HC. He is now officially the hottest coordinator in the league. He won against an undefeated Patriots team, won a superbowl and would be the splash hire that Snyder loves. I'm for it personally that was one hell of a performance and if he has any input on who we bring in here we will finally get a decent passrusher

NYCSkin · 02-03-2008, 11:44 PM

SI.com's Don Banks seems to imply that Spag's might be the frontrunner now...

SI.com - Writers - Don Banks: Super Bowl XLII Snap Judgments - Sunday February 3, 2008 11:37PM

BleedBurgundy · 02-03-2008, 11:49 PM

There's alot of defensive coordinators around the league that would look pretty damn good with a a front four that gets consistent pressure. I am not discrediting what "spags" has done, only making the point that a solid team is built from the line up on d and o alike. NY has an awesome defensive line...

jrocx69 · 02-04-2008, 12:14 AM

dont you think us bringing spags here will give us the line that we want in 2 to 3 years??? you guys have to think now now now, a new coach will eventually build the team he wants and im for hiring spags. on a side note... whoever said blache was a 1st time dc... didnt he dc the bears??

diehardskin2982 · 02-04-2008, 12:15 AM

he worked well with the talent that he got.

GTripp0012 · 02-04-2008, 12:22 AM

Is this the same guy who had Corey Webster covering Randy Moss 1 on 1 in a must-throw do or die situation?

Good gameplan, but piss poor on the fly game calling. And we really want him to be our next HC?

SmootSmack · 02-04-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

SI.com's Don Banks seems to imply that Spag's might be the frontrunner now...

SI.com - Writers - Don Banks: Super Bowl XLII Snap Judgments - Sunday February 3, 2008 11:37PM

He's just speculating. He has no basis for what he's saying really

SC Skins Fan · 02-04-2008, 12:46 AM

I'm wary of the 'hot' candidate. Plus, being a great coordinator (who also had good talent) for a short period of time (or even an extended period of time) doesn't seem to necessarily translate into being a good head coach. There is so much administrative stuff, delegation, etc. that a head coach deals with. That is why when people say 'retread' as a slur I think it is foolish. The best prep for being a head coach is ... being a head coach. I hope Fassel gets the job ... I'm sure he learned from New York, his people are already here, he doesn't strike me as a flake (as Mariucci does - subjective of course), and with G. Williams gone I wish they would have just given him the job a couple of weeks ago. If he doesn't get the nod then it probably means Snyder bowed to perceived fan pressure and chased the sexy candidate instead - wrong move IMO.

Texanskin · 02-04-2008, 01:06 AM

If we draft a freaking monster DE then maybe we can duplicate the giants success no matter who is coaching

Dirtbag59 · 02-04-2008, 02:17 AM

Spagnola = Ultra Conservative Offense and great Defense
Mooch + Blache = Balanced Offense and great Defense

hooskins · 02-04-2008, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

SI.com's Don Banks seems to imply that Spag's might be the frontrunner now...

SI.com - Writers - Don Banks: Super Bowl XLII Snap Judgments - Sunday February 3, 2008 11:37PM

my favorite quote.

• I'm glad Art Monk made the Hall of Fame. If only because it now puts the cottage industry known as the Art-Monk-deserves-to-be-in-the-Hall-of-Fame Washington lobbyist group out of business.

Dirtbag59 · 02-04-2008, 03:49 AM

I think the irony of this situation is that people don't realize is that Coughlin is an Offensive Coach. And while that itself doesn't prove that an offensive or defenisve HC is the best decision. It does endorse that balance or unstopable god-like ability on one of side of the ball is necessary to win a championship. And just so you know, the second one is extremely rare, with the last team displaying that quality being the Baltimore Ravens.

With that said I believe that hiring Spags would shift the balance to the defensive side of the ball, especially pairing him with Blache, who by the way was promised complete auntomony over the defense. While a guy like Mooch or Fassel along with Zorn would help bring balance to the Skins IMO.

That Guy · 02-04-2008, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, well lets not get our panties in a bunch.

If he signs here, he no longer has Pierce.

say what? fletcher is just as good as pierce. What he won't have is strahan/osi/tuck, which is why they won that game.

That Guy · 02-04-2008, 04:01 AM

the three hardest guys to find are franchise QB, franchise DE, and superstud WR.

while eli and plax aren't exactly brady and moss, they've nailed the pass rushing thing three times over, and it's REALLY working for them right now.

I don't think one game should make him our coach when the current staff is already in place for a WCO offensive type. spags wouldn't be terrible for a new guy, but i'd still prefer mooch (previous HCs tend to fare much better in this league).

02-03-2008, 11:15 PM	#31
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Welcome Home Spags!!! This has to be a clear lesson to idiot GM's that the key to defense in today's NFL is having DE's that are freaks. What the Giants D did tonight was just straight up incredible.

02-03-2008, 11:35 PM	#32
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Welcome Home Spags!!! Spags will be our next HC. He is now officially the hottest coordinator in the league. He won against an undefeated Patriots team, won a superbowl and would be the splash hire that Snyder loves. I'm for it personally that was one hell of a performance and if he has any input on who we bring in here we will finally get a decent passrusher __________________ That got ugly fast

02-03-2008, 11:44 PM	#33
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 54 Posts: 513	Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense) SI.com's Don Banks seems to imply that Spag's might be the frontrunner now... SI.com - Writers - Don Banks: Super Bowl XLII Snap Judgments - Sunday February 3, 2008 11:37PM

02-03-2008, 11:49 PM	#34
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Welcome Home Spags!!! There's alot of defensive coordinators around the league that would look pretty damn good with a a front four that gets consistent pressure. I am not discrediting what "spags" has done, only making the point that a solid team is built from the line up on d and o alike. NY has an awesome defensive line... __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

02-04-2008, 12:14 AM	#35
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 44 Posts: 461	Re: Welcome Home Spags!!! dont you think us bringing spags here will give us the line that we want in 2 to 3 years??? you guys have to think now now now, a new coach will eventually build the team he wants and im for hiring spags. on a side note... whoever said blache was a 1st time dc... didnt he dc the bears??

02-04-2008, 12:15 AM	#36
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Welcome Home Spags!!! he worked well with the talent that he got. __________________ That got ugly fast

02-04-2008, 12:22 AM	#37
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Welcome Home Spags!!! Is this the same guy who had Corey Webster covering Randy Moss 1 on 1 in a must-throw do or die situation? Good gameplan, but piss poor on the fly game calling. And we really want him to be our next HC? __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

02-04-2008, 12:46 AM	#39
SC Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,555	Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense) I'm wary of the 'hot' candidate. Plus, being a great coordinator (who also had good talent) for a short period of time (or even an extended period of time) doesn't seem to necessarily translate into being a good head coach. There is so much administrative stuff, delegation, etc. that a head coach deals with. That is why when people say 'retread' as a slur I think it is foolish. The best prep for being a head coach is ... being a head coach. I hope Fassel gets the job ... I'm sure he learned from New York, his people are already here, he doesn't strike me as a flake (as Mariucci does - subjective of course), and with G. Williams gone I wish they would have just given him the job a couple of weeks ago. If he doesn't get the nod then it probably means Snyder bowed to perceived fan pressure and chased the sexy candidate instead - wrong move IMO. __________________ It has taken a long time, but I have finally realized that nothing I say about the Redskins will have any effect upon anything the Redskins do.

02-04-2008, 01:06 AM	#40
Texanskin Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Skins fan in the Dallas area Posts: 187	Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense) If we draft a freaking monster DE then maybe we can duplicate the giants success no matter who is coaching __________________ We are finally looking like a respectable opponent.....Lets keep it going!!!

02-04-2008, 02:17 AM	#41
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense) Spagnola = Ultra Conservative Offense and great Defense Mooch + Blache = Balanced Offense and great Defense __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

02-04-2008, 03:49 AM	#43
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense) I think the irony of this situation is that people don't realize is that Coughlin is an Offensive Coach. And while that itself doesn't prove that an offensive or defenisve HC is the best decision. It does endorse that balance or unstopable god-like ability on one of side of the ball is necessary to win a championship. And just so you know, the second one is extremely rare, with the last team displaying that quality being the Baltimore Ravens. With that said I believe that hiring Spags would shift the balance to the defensive side of the ball, especially pairing him with Blache, who by the way was promised complete auntomony over the defense. While a guy like Mooch or Fassel along with Zorn would help bring balance to the Skins IMO. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

02-04-2008, 04:01 AM	#45
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Welcome Home Spags!!! the three hardest guys to find are franchise QB, franchise DE, and superstud WR. while eli and plax aren't exactly brady and moss, they've nailed the pass rushing thing three times over, and it's REALLY working for them right now. I don't think one game should make him our coach when the current staff is already in place for a WCO offensive type. spags wouldn't be terrible for a new guy, but i'd still prefer mooch (previous HCs tend to fare much better in this league).

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