ESPN's NFL Live: Monk should be in the HOF

Cush · 10-21-2004, 07:06 PM

they were just talking about the new candidates for the Hall Of Fame & said that Art Monk should already be in.

RedskinRat · 10-21-2004, 07:27 PM

No disagreements here. I think it's a joke he's not.

Gmanc711 · 10-21-2004, 07:33 PM

I agree. Unfortunatley, I dont think he'll get in for at least another few years, because of all the first ballot guys that are coming up. The day he goes in, will be the first time I'll actually watch the hall of fame ceremony.

aehs77 · 10-21-2004, 08:34 PM

Russ Grimm and Joe Jacoby are also on the list this year

cpayne5 · 10-21-2004, 09:08 PM

The guy held a couple records when he retired! No reason why he shouldn't be in the HOF.

OT: Anyone else notice they let Jerry Rice have Steve Largent's #80?

Redskins8588 · 10-21-2004, 09:56 PM

This is pretty werid if you ask me, Art Monk was with the redskins from 1980-1993. I may be wrong but wasn't Norv Turner in his first year as a head coach when we let Monk go? Fastforward to the present and Norv is out in Oakland and look who gets let go, Jerry Rice another vet from the 80's. I am begining to think that Norv doesnt like the older proven recievers and wants young talent of which he can not find if his life depended on it.

aehs77 · 10-21-2004, 09:57 PM

you'd be hard pressed to find anybody on this site to disagree. I went to his camp 3 years and he was the nicest guy.(his son was a dick)

cpayne5 · 10-21-2004, 11:23 PM

John Konoza (the statistician for 106.7WJFK) got me an autographed picture of Monk the night he set the record.

FRPLG · 10-22-2004, 08:50 AM

It is a travesty that he is not in the HOF. I for my life don't understand why there is even a discussion about it. Anyone who can look at his career know he should have been a first ballot HOF. When he retired he was arguably the second best reciever in history. Of course since then he has been passed by on multiple records but this is a different era. It is shameful that he is not in and it is shameful that no one will make a big deal out of it.

celts32 · 10-22-2004, 10:05 AM

It's a f-in joke. How can a guy who held the all time receptions record not be in the hall of fame while guys like James Lofton get in ahead of him? The one's responsible for Monk not being in the hall are the 2 jackass SI writers Peter King & Paul Zimmerman. Those two make it a personal mission every year to keep Monk out for some reason. I don't see how he will ever get in as long as those two big mouths have a say in it...

Gmanc711 · 10-22-2004, 10:09 AM

What the hell did Peter King or Paul Zimmerman ever do to deserve to keep someone like that out of the hall of fame. Fire both those assclowns, cause its a freaking sin that this guy isnt in.

SmootSmack · 10-22-2004, 03:14 PM

For anyone interested, here's a full list of the nominees

MTK · 10-22-2004, 03:49 PM

Marino is a lock, if Irvin makes it first ballot, wow, Monk should really be ticked

cpayne5 · 10-22-2004, 04:45 PM

How is Tagliabue eligible? That's a crock.

memphisskin · 10-22-2004, 05:03 PM

I don't know if Irvin is a first ballot HOFer, but there's probably no way he doesn't get in soon.

Monk probably won't make it. Teams never feared Monk, or tried to take him out of the gameplan. He quietly moved the chains and was an integral part of our SB successes but the more dangerous receivers always lined up opposite Monk, like Gary Clark or Charlie Brown. He was extremely solid, definitely a great Redskin, but if you go by stats or reputation Monk is just not quite there. I don't think it's going to happen for Monk, he was just never the driving force for us on offense, but that's not to minimize his contribution to the Redskins because the guy was fantastic for us. But if he played for any other team would we even know who he was? Quiet, unassuming, dependable but where did he stand out?

When DG comes up next year he's a first ballot HOFer. Monk, he may get in eventually but I wouldn't count on it.

10-21-2004, 07:06 PM	#1
Cush Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 963	ESPN's NFL Live: Monk should be in the HOF they were just talking about the new candidates for the Hall Of Fame & said that Art Monk should already be in.

10-21-2004, 07:33 PM	#3
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I agree. Unfortunatley, I dont think he'll get in for at least another few years, because of all the first ballot guys that are coming up. The day he goes in, will be the first time I'll actually watch the hall of fame ceremony. __________________ #21

10-21-2004, 09:08 PM	#5
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	The guy held a couple records when he retired! No reason why he shouldn't be in the HOF. OT: Anyone else notice they let Jerry Rice have Steve Largent's #80? __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

10-21-2004, 09:56 PM	#6
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	This is pretty werid if you ask me, Art Monk was with the redskins from 1980-1993. I may be wrong but wasn't Norv Turner in his first year as a head coach when we let Monk go? Fastforward to the present and Norv is out in Oakland and look who gets let go, Jerry Rice another vet from the 80's. I am begining to think that Norv doesnt like the older proven recievers and wants young talent of which he can not find if his life depended on it. __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

10-22-2004, 10:09 AM	#11
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	What the hell did Peter King or Paul Zimmerman ever do to deserve to keep someone like that out of the hall of fame. Fire both those assclowns, cause its a freaking sin that this guy isnt in. __________________ #21

10-21-2004, 07:27 PM	#2
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	No disagreements here. I think it's a joke he's not.

10-21-2004, 08:34 PM	#4
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 40 Posts: 486	Russ Grimm and Joe Jacoby are also on the list this year

10-21-2004, 09:57 PM	#7
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 40 Posts: 486	you'd be hard pressed to find anybody on this site to disagree. I went to his camp 3 years and he was the nicest guy.(his son was a dick)

10-21-2004, 11:23 PM	#8
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	John Konoza (the statistician for 106.7WJFK) got me an autographed picture of Monk the night he set the record. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

10-22-2004, 08:50 AM	#9
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	It is a travesty that he is not in the HOF. I for my life don't understand why there is even a discussion about it. Anyone who can look at his career know he should have been a first ballot HOF. When he retired he was arguably the second best reciever in history. Of course since then he has been passed by on multiple records but this is a different era. It is shameful that he is not in and it is shameful that no one will make a big deal out of it.

10-22-2004, 10:05 AM	#10
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	It's a f-in joke. How can a guy who held the all time receptions record not be in the hall of fame while guys like James Lofton get in ahead of him? The one's responsible for Monk not being in the hall are the 2 jackass SI writers Peter King & Paul Zimmerman. Those two make it a personal mission every year to keep Monk out for some reason. I don't see how he will ever get in as long as those two big mouths have a say in it...

10-22-2004, 03:14 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	For anyone interested, here's a full list of the nominees __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-22-2004, 03:49 PM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Marino is a lock, if Irvin makes it first ballot, wow, Monk should really be ticked

10-22-2004, 04:45 PM	#14
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	How is Tagliabue eligible? That's a crock. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

10-22-2004, 05:03 PM	#15
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	I don't know if Irvin is a first ballot HOFer, but there's probably no way he doesn't get in soon. Monk probably won't make it. Teams never feared Monk, or tried to take him out of the gameplan. He quietly moved the chains and was an integral part of our SB successes but the more dangerous receivers always lined up opposite Monk, like Gary Clark or Charlie Brown. He was extremely solid, definitely a great Redskin, but if you go by stats or reputation Monk is just not quite there. I don't think it's going to happen for Monk, he was just never the driving force for us on offense, but that's not to minimize his contribution to the Redskins because the guy was fantastic for us. But if he played for any other team would we even know who he was? Quiet, unassuming, dependable but where did he stand out? When DG comes up next year he's a first ballot HOFer. Monk, he may get in eventually but I wouldn't count on it.

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