Redskins vs. Giants Gameday thread, Opener 2009

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Giantone

............how many of the yards came on those 2 broken plays?

So they shouldn't count as offensive yards? Is there a separate category for broken play yards? I bet Tony Romo leads that category every year, with Favre a close second.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

JMU loses, the skins are sh*tting the bed, and the warpath website is crashing left and right. A great weekend overall

Not a good weekend to be a Dukes/Skins fan.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Buster

Cutler:
17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating

Sanchez:
18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating

Campbell:
19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating

What did you say? JC was the best of them all yesterday. Cutler looked horrid. Sanchez looked like the rookie he is.

Cutler looked awful. JC looked pretty lost. Sanchez didn't see the game for the rook, but he is 1-0. End of the day THATS ALL THAT COUNTS! WINS

[DBUCHANON101]

Ill take a QB with a W instead of a QB with a 100+ rating and a L. just sayin

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

So they shouldn't count as offensive yards? Is there a separate category for broken play yards? I bet Tony Romo leads that category every year, with Favre a close second.

Ok ...you can untie your panties, my point is Campbell ...was calm and composed on 2 of the plays that were broken and just winged it.People jump on a QB and as was with the Giants............and Eli,once they got rid of Shockey Eli's #'s got better, the problem might not be Campbell.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Congrats on a game well played, Giantone.

Thank you,as I stated before it's only one game and there are 15 more to go.After watching highlights of the weekend ......I don't think anyone is that good and noone is that bad,things will level out in around 5wks.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Thank you,as I stated before it's only one game and there are 15 more to go.After watching highlights of the weekend ......I don't think anyone is that good and noone is that bad,things will level out in around 5wks.

I agree Giantone. It took comeback finishes for the Pats to beat the Bills, the Chargers to beat Oakland etc. A lot of teams are in the process of making adjustments and getting on track.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Thank you,as I stated before it's only one game and there are 15 more to go.After watching highlights of the weekend ......I don't think anyone is that good and noone is that bad,things will level out in around 5wks.

Still, your QB beat an experience secondary with young receivers and not much of a running game. I think that is very impressive. I'm sure you guys would have like to see more points on the board.

Hey quick question, what was your thought on Coughlin going for it on 4 and short near the endzone? I personally think he should've gone for 3...luckily for you guys that didn't come back to bite you at the end.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Buster

Cutler:
17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating

Sanchez:
18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating

Campbell:
19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating

What did you say? JC was the best of them all yesterday. Cutler looked horrid. Sanchez looked like the rookie he is.

From Boswell's column:

While the game was still in the hat, Campbell never got untracked. By the time the Giants hit a short field goal for a 23-10 lead with 3:12 to play, Campbell had passed for only 145 yards with one interception and two fumbles, one lost. However, his final drive, completing 5 for 6 for 66 yards, including a 17-yard score to Chris Cooley, raised, or padded, his quarterback rating to 93.6.

You can take comfort in the final stats and the 93.6 QB rating, but when the game still mattered, Campbell was mediocre and AGAIN, just not good enough to help his team win. Modest stats (like Favre's against the Browns) are fine in a win, but not in a loss. He did all he could do, but it just wasn't enough. Different year, same old story line.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

From Boswell's column:

While the game was still in the hat, Campbell never got untracked. By the time the Giants hit a short field goal for a 23-10 lead with 3:12 to play, Campbell had passed for only 145 yards with one interception and two fumbles, one lost. However, his final drive, completing 5 for 6 for 66 yards, including a 17-yard score to Chris Cooley, raised, or padded, his quarterback rating to 93.6.

You can take comfort in the final stats and the 93.6 QB rating, but when the game still mattered, Campbell was mediocre and AGAIN, just not good enough to help his team win. Modest stats (like Favre's against the Browns) are fine in a win, but not in a loss. He did all he could do, but it just wasn't enough. Different year, same old story line.

Well he was still better than Cutler, and well I wish we had been playing the Texans at home in our first game instead of the Giants at their home.

So you made half of a point here...what good does that make for the team?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

From Boswell's column:

While the game was still in the hat, Campbell never got untracked. By the time the Giants hit a short field goal for a 23-10 lead with 3:12 to play, Campbell had passed for only 145 yards with one interception and two fumbles, one lost. However, his final drive, completing 5 for 6 for 66 yards, including a 17-yard score to Chris Cooley, raised, or padded, his quarterback rating to 93.6.

You can take comfort in the final stats and the 93.6 QB rating, but when the game still mattered, Campbell was mediocre and AGAIN, just not good enough to help his team win. Modest stats (like Favre's against the Browns) are fine in a win, but not in a loss. He did all he could do, but it just wasn't enough. Different year, same old story line.

So using this selective acceptance of stats...we can throw out Brady's last 2 drives last night and deduct him from his total, because they were in the final 2 minutes and the one drive was started by a stupid fumble on a kickoff return that never should have happened.

So Campbell makes plays at the end of the game and almost pulls out a win for us...and we're not supposed to count these stats? I don't get it. Flawed logic at its best.

The media loves to bash Campbell like this too...from his Yahoo fantasy news this morning:

Sep 14 QB Jason Campbell's numbers against the Giants -- 19-of-26, 211 yards, touchdown, interception, 93.6 rating -- were fine, but they were deceiving. Fifty-six of the yards, the touchdown and five of the completions came after the Redskins trailed 23-10 with 3:00 left. Campbell made two big mistakes earlier, failing to get rid of or secure the ball on the play on Osi Umenyiora's sack/fumble/touchdown and on the interception he threw to Corey Webster after having already crossed the line of scrimmage.

Jason Campbell - Washington Redskins - News - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[MTK]

JC is under such a microscope it's ridiculous.

You can pick apart anyone's stats, take away this, take away that. In the end it's a pointless debate. His numbers are what they are. How about this, take away his 2 turnovers and it's a different game.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

JC is under such a microscope it's ridiculous.

You can pick apart anyone's stats, take away this, take away that. In the end it's a pointless debate. His numbers are what they are. How about this, take away his 2 turnovers and it's a different game.

Really. It's like a group of politicians spinning things the way they want it. I thought the argument was...Campbell needs to throw MORE INT's to show he's aggressive. Take away his 2 mistakes and he played lights out. The good news is..we probably won't see those same mistakes again.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Still, your QB beat an experience secondary with young receivers and not much of a running game. I think that is very impressive. I'm sure you guys would have like to see more points on the board.

Hey quick question, what was your thought on Coughlin going for it on 4 and short near the endzone? I personally think he should've gone for 3...luckily for you guys that didn't come back to bite you at the end.

The reason going for the 7 was the right call is because that, even when we stopped them, all probability suggested that when the Giants got the ball back, it was going to be on our side of the 50. That's exactly what happened.

Nothing said, "the Redskins have to go 3 and out here", but taking 3 points also means you have to kick off to the Redskins, and gives us a better chance at having the ball at the 30 or 40 instead of the 5. And for what? 3 points. Make it seven, and that's a nice trade off.

I would have thrown it though, with the benefit of hindsight.

[CRedskinsRule]

He just wanted a new memory that he can reference when we play NY in NY as our opening game again next year. Unless we win the SB, then it will be NY in DC on opening day!