How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

GTripp0012 · 03-03-2010, 06:41 PM

I think it's really interesting that we had this thread on the day that Heyer got a second round tender, because Bushrod is basically their Heyer. It suggests that this is the new going rate for a tackle.

But since I don't think anyone is lining up to offer us a second for Heyer, I'm not thinking we should return the favor.

T.O.Killa · 03-03-2010, 06:49 PM

well if he is there Heyer they can keep him.

WaldSkins · 03-03-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

well if he is there Heyer they can keep him.

What??

Pocket$ $traight · 03-03-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

What??

What T.O. Killa correctly surmised is that if Bushrod is another Heyer, everyone who spent time typing on this post has been cheated out of part of their life.

SmootSmack · 03-03-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

i hear ya buddy but nobody is going to immediatley make our o line look good. not JC, not bradford, not clausen, not okung.

have we reached a deal with rabach? if not, he hits the FA wire in about 34 hours.

Would be shocked if we reach a deal with Rabach, especially before FA hits

DIE-NASTY · 03-04-2010, 12:04 AM

I'd rather make a push for Gaither. I'd feel comfortable trading our 2nd (preferably Carlos Rogers and a lower pick) for the guy. He's only 23 and played LT. His size (6'9" 350lbs or so makes him a better RT). Pair him with a LT at No. 4 and you have a pair of tackles similar to Samuels and Jansen when they were drafted.

Ruhskins · 03-04-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DIE-NASTY

I'd rather make a push for Gaither. I'd feel comfortable trading our 2nd (preferably Carlos Rogers and a lower pick) for the guy. He's only 23 and played LT. His size (6'9" 350lbs or so makes him a better RT). Pair him with a LT at No. 4 and you have a pair of tackles similar to Samuels and Jansen when they were drafted.

Gaither is a LT (Oher plays RT) and would he fit in Shanny's zone block?? At 350 lbs. I would say not. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good lineman, and if he fits, I wouldn't mind getting him.

DIE-NASTY · 03-04-2010, 12:32 AM

i agree gaither probably isn't as quick of tackle shannahan would like but i'm sure he isn't a slug. He's opened plenty of room for Ray Rice and company to run the past couple of years and that's with 8 men in the box. Baltimore hasn't had any real WR threats to open up the offense and they still were able to crank in the running game.

SirClintonPortis · 03-04-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Gaither is a LT (Oher plays RT) and would he fit in Shanny's zone block?? At 350 lbs. I would say not. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good lineman, and if he fits, I wouldn't mind getting him.

If he has a good 20-yd shuttle and 3-cone drill, he sure as hell would be a good fit.

*Jared Gaither | Maryland, OT : 2007 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

Looks like his Pro Day went well for him. His 3-cone drill and 20-yd shuttle is better than any OLinemen that fully participated in this year's combine

Dirtbag59 · 03-04-2010, 12:58 AM

No doubt that Gaither is a quality player at left tackle. Just that he's not tailor made for this scheme and there are younger more qualified zone blocking options in Bulaga and Okung. Now if the Ravens start smoking crack and ask for a second round pick for Gaither then awesome.

T.O.Killa · 03-04-2010, 11:16 AM

Just so every knows I got clarification. If they take a restricted free agent they give up 2011 pick. I think it is worth looking at because the 2011 draft will probably be weak.

CRedskinsRule · 03-04-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just so every knows I got clarification. If they take a restricted free agent they give up 2011 pick. I think it is worth looking at because the 2011 draft will probably be weak.

Thanks for that info, I did not realize that at all.

Ruhskins · 03-04-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just so every knows I got clarification. If they take a restricted free agent they give up 2011 pick. I think it is worth looking at because the 2011 draft will probably be weak.

Are you sure about this? When the Panthers tendered Ricky Manning in the 2006 offseason, and the Bears offered him a contract (which Carolina did not match) the draft pick given to the Panthers was for the 2006 draft.

Also, when New England acquired Wes Welker from Miami in 2007, the draft picks were for the 2007 draft.

Unless there are changes due to the uncapped season about this, I think the draft picks given up are for this year, unless a trade is negotiated and the other team is willing to accept a 2011 pick.

Dirtbag59 · 03-04-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just so every knows I got clarification. If they take a restricted free agent they give up 2011 pick. I think it is worth looking at because the 2011 draft will probably be weak.

What makes you say that? I'm not saying you're wrong but this time last year we had a handful of people thinking that this QB class was going to be the best one in a long time. Now half of the posters need to be dragged kicking and screaming to just be told that drafting a QB early isn't the end of the world nevermind be sold on the possible move.

Also if you look at Todd McShays mock draft from April 2009 for April 2010 you'll see just how difficult it is to project a draft class a year in advance.

http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...t-depth-4.html

His top 10 is actually pretty decent but a lot of the guys he projects near the second half are going to be 3rd and 4th rounders at best. I mean for goodness sake he had us drafting Ciron Black at 11th overall.

T.O.Killa · 03-07-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

What makes you say that? I'm not saying you're wrong but this time last year we had a handful of people thinking that this QB class was going to be the best one in a long time. Now half of the posters need to be dragged kicking and screaming to just be told that drafting a QB early isn't the end of the world nevermind be sold on the possible move.

Also if you look at Todd McShays mock draft from April 2009 for April 2010 you'll see just how difficult it is to project a draft class a year in advance.

http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...t-depth-4.html

His top 10 is actually pretty decent but a lot of the guys he projects near the second half are going to be 3rd and 4th rounders at best. I mean for goodness sake he had us drafting Ciron Black at 11th overall.

The reason I say that this year is so strong, is because so many juniors have come out early with the impending new CBA coming. So it only makes sense that if this year has allot of next years talent in it, that it will be weak. I think the Redskins are being very smart right now, because if there is a new CBA next year the free agent class will be incredible and it looks like they will have a ton of cap space.

03-03-2010, 06:41 PM	#46
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder I think it's really interesting that we had this thread on the day that Heyer got a second round tender, because Bushrod is basically their Heyer. It suggests that this is the new going rate for a tackle. But since I don't think anyone is lining up to offer us a second for Heyer, I'm not thinking we should return the favor. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-03-2010, 06:49 PM	#47
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder well if he is there Heyer they can keep him.

03-04-2010, 12:04 AM	#51
DIE-NASTY Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: OCEAN PINES, MD Posts: 121	Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder I'd rather make a push for Gaither. I'd feel comfortable trading our 2nd (preferably Carlos Rogers and a lower pick) for the guy. He's only 23 and played LT. His size (6'9" 350lbs or so makes him a better RT). Pair him with a LT at No. 4 and you have a pair of tackles similar to Samuels and Jansen when they were drafted.

03-04-2010, 12:32 AM	#53
DIE-NASTY Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: OCEAN PINES, MD Posts: 121	Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder i agree gaither probably isn't as quick of tackle shannahan would like but i'm sure he isn't a slug. He's opened plenty of room for Ray Rice and company to run the past couple of years and that's with 8 men in the box. Baltimore hasn't had any real WR threats to open up the offense and they still were able to crank in the running game.

03-04-2010, 12:58 AM	#55
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder No doubt that Gaither is a quality player at left tackle. Just that he's not tailor made for this scheme and there are younger more qualified zone blocking options in Bulaga and Okung. Now if the Ravens start smoking crack and ask for a second round pick for Gaither then awesome. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

03-04-2010, 11:16 AM	#56
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder Just so every knows I got clarification. If they take a restricted free agent they give up 2011 pick. I think it is worth looking at because the 2011 draft will probably be weak.

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