Will Saunders Affect Our QB Situation?

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

That response was actually specific to a comment that Ramsey never had the benefit of getting the majority of the reps and his poor play in the past was a result of not being ready to play...

In '04, I was like everyone else and was calling for Brunell's head.. For 56 minutes of the Dallas game I was thinking here we go again.. I still call him Brunold because he looks old a lot.. However, at no other time this season, with the exceptions of the 1st half of the AZ game and once he got hurt, did Brunell look as bad as Ramsey.. The fact that the coaching staff didn't play a healthy Ramsey over an obviously hobbled Brunell should tell you all you need to know about where he stands in the eyes of the organization..

I'm sorry, but Ramsey scares me when he is in the game.. He looks and plays scared. That's not what I want leading my team.. If the Redskins decide to keep him and play him I obviously hope for the best, but I don't think he will be successful as a Redskins QB based on what I've seen.. It's not hate, when he's traded, I hope he does well somewhere else.. He's a class guy, but just not a good QB in my opinion.

well said!

I agree he's not the apple of the organzations eye, at least Gibbs, I do think Snyder is a Ramsey guy, but he was responsible for drafting him as well.

What I look at when I see Ramsey is a player who came into a brand new offense in Gibbs, from a kaotic offense as far as protection in SS, and yes when SS was here Ramsey was money with his passas anytime he had an opportunity to actually drop and plant his back foot, unfortunatly that wasen't often with SS. Aside from a WR making the wrong read in the Bears game causing Ramseys first INT, and a chop to the throat for a fumble, he drove the ball very well on what turned out to be maybe the best D in the NFL, yes he had more yards in the first quarter passing than Brunell had in 3. I will always feel that had Ramsey been given the opportunity to understand and become comfortable in Gibbs offense he would be far better than Brunell right now. If Ramsey doesn't get an opportunity with us I would love to see him in miami, or dallas, those are 2 spots with coaches who will allow his talents to flurish.


I will aslo feel that Ramsey status right now is because of a Gibbs promise to Brunell. Gibbs had to convince Brunell to come to DC if you remember when he was rumored to be released he said he wanted to start, and everyone knew that Ramsey had shown tremendous promise under SS, and couldn't wait to see what he would do with a real coach, so Brunell was reluctant to come to us because he didn't want to backup. Then what? Gibbs spends like an entire week with the guy and the next thing you know 43 mil and a second rd. pick he's a skin, with the announcment that it will be an open competition for the starters job? Ramsey wanted out soon as he heard it, why? Because he knew what he was up against, there is no way you give up what we gave up for a veteran QB on his last leg if he could quite seriously be a backup that would be absolutly ridiculous. Gibbs promised him the starters job that is the only way Brunell would come here. Did Gibbs sacrifice winning or a better QB intentionally? No, but he made a commitment to Brunell and stuck with it believing he can win regardless of the QB as he's proven throughout his carreer. And that is why I have always felt Ramsey has been treated as a red headed step child. Can you say the way Brunell played last year that the belief that some how Brunell wasen't Gibbs illegitamate son the way he stuck with him? Then Ramsey finally gets his shot 3 games against 2 of the best teams in the NFL and the 2 best defenses to go with it and looked very good, he also blew out a Giant team that brunell was getting his lunch handed to him the first time we played them.

I don't care who disagree's with this, and I know there will be plenty, but this whole QB controversy is about Gibbs not wanting to admit he made a royal screwup with the Brunell trade, and is know trying to drive a square peg through a round hole to justify it. Maybe he swings a big enough sledge to make that peg fit, but I will always believe it would have been much easier with Ramsey!