Gibbs leaving? Not a chance

[Daseal]

Gtripp, no doubt Gibbs has brought a ton in the way of players to the team. I feel that he has attempted, for the most part, to try to put a win now team in place with expensive veteran players over the draft, but hasn't totally handcuffed us like before. If Gibbs were to step into a President role where he played a part in the player acquisition/scouting/whatever department, I would be thrilled with the move. Often coaches doing both player management and team management don't excel at both, each job is a more than full-time position and I don't feel as if one person can contribute enough to doing both.

My gripe certainly isn't with the talent on this team, my problem is with the way the team reacts. I keep hearing players aren't executing, and that's true. However, when players not executing becomes the rule, not the exception, much of that blame has to go somewhere on the coaches for not fixing the problems.

If you interpreted my post to be an "I'm smarter than you" I apologize. It wasn't meant that way. I don't think many other members can't see Gibbs shortcomings, I think they refuse to. They're attached to the Gibbs they saw in the 80's and can't fathom that the NFL is too different today for him to coach at a top notch level.

First off, the season is not over yet, so you can't judge Gibbs on his 4th year. Second, show me any coach with a QB with 1 year under his belt that has been a winner? Brady& Rothlisberger are the only ones I can think off. Young, The Mannings, Lineart, Cluter, Smith, etc. what did they do with one year under belt? Did they go to the playoffs or SB? PATIENCE will pay off, watch Campbell this weekend and the rest of the year, then you can judge.

First of all, from what I understand, most NFL coaches get three years to get their players, systems, etc in place before really getting on the hot seat. Most coaches that end their 3rd season with one of the highest payrolls in the NFL and a 5-11 record get shown the door. The NFL doesn't allow for team building like it did before free agency. Secondly, I can judge Gibbs on the games I've seen this year. Is the year over, no. Could he shock me, possibly. However, up until this point we've been a wildly inconsistent team that plays up and down to competition, we do our best to keep our opponents close (sans Detroit), we lose to teams we should beat (see Giants/Eagles), and we barely squeak out wins against teams we should crush (see Jets/Dolphins). That is not a good sign for things to come.

My question to you, how many games has Campbell lost us? I'd say 0. They wait until there's 5 minutes left in the 4th to let him go, by that point hes forcing throws, etc. You could say the Dallas game, but that was a rare loss I can pin on the defense. Springs and PP getting worked hard by TO all day long. I don't feel Campbell has made much of an impact either for or against the teams record. I'll say this much, we have a better record and chance with him than Brunell or Collins in there.

Why do people say things Like "I'm about done with Joe" or "I've had it with Joe". Are you going to switch teams if they don't hire a new coach? Other than that possibility, which could hardly be characterized as a tragedy, it doesn't really matter what you want.

You're right, there's nothing fans can do. Just wait if he's around for another year and if we have a miserable season. The chants of Joe must go will be loud late in the year for our remaining home games. It really doesn't matter what I want, but every week more and more Redskins fans are giving up on the Gibbs experience and marking it up as another coaching failure to follow Spurrier, Norv, et al. The fans want production regardless of who the coach is, the NFL is about winning. While I myself can't do anything, a large group of fans can.

Everyone is welcome to their opinion. I don't expect to change anyones opinion on Joe Gibbs as they won't change mine. History will remember his 2nd stint as coach of the Washington Redskins as a failure. That's how I feel and it would take a hell of a run to change that.

Here's a question for you, if Snyder fired Gibbs, would you still support the team fully? I know it's hypothetical and would never happened. But you seem so sure that no one can impact what the club does and you just have to suck it up and support the skins through thick and thin. Would you be happy with him being kicked to the curb, or would you voice your concern?