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Old 04-22-2013, 09:30 AM   #1
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I think we all would. Niles Paul has shown and proven that he can't catch the dang football. Watching his drops is frustrating sometimes. These are passes that we all know Cooley would have easily hauled in. But Shanahan drafted Paul and moved him to TE because of his receiver like speed would be a mismatch against linebackers. So far the TE experiment concerning Niles Paul collectively hasn't worked. In time perhaps it will.
I've been very frustrated with Niles Paul's drops, but I'm willing to give him one more year to prove that he can catch the dang ball! As far as the mismatch against the linebackers, that has worked pretty well. Paul can get open down the field, and he does have the potential to be a deep threat type of TE, but he just needs to work on his concentration. Right now, he's catching the ball like Taylor Jacobs.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:15 AM   #2
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At best we have two TEs on the roster right now, Davis and Lunch Pail. Hopefully Davis stays healthy. I'm tired of discussing Paul as anything more than a ST player, it's ridiculous.

Regardless, I won't be surprised if Shanny drafts a TE next wknd.
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I keep pulling for Paul, but he does make it hard at times. As for Cooley, yes, he would catch the ball if he were in the same spot as Paul. The problem is that he can't get to that spot when Paul does and, by the time Cooley gets there, it's simply too late.

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I hope we bring him back for depth. Couldnt he sub in @FB as well? Joe used to start him there frequent.
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I hope we bring him back for depth. Couldnt he sub in @FB as well? Joe used to start him there frequent.
I want Darrel Young out there every play we use a FB. He's a beast, especially when he gets the ball out in the open.


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Old 04-22-2013, 11:05 AM   #6
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I want Darrel Young out there every play we use a FB. He's a beast, especially when he gets the ball out in the open.
I agree.

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CC would also be a good mentor, he deserves a shot at two winning seasons in a row after suffering so many seasons of suck.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:07 PM   #8
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^ i dont think he was really given that much of a shot, 90% of his time on the field he was blocking/decoy..
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^ i dont think he was really given that much of a shot, 90% of his time on the field he was blocking/decoy..
There was a reason for that. Look back at the reviews from camp, his loss of a step (or more) was obvious to those who observed him.

From all that I have read, Shanny is one of those "Prove It To Me" coaches. If you want to be put in a position to produce on the field, you need to show him that you can do it in practice. So, Cooley, who - by all accounts I read from people paid to make such observations - was not getting it done in practice, was simply not getting plays run through him on game day.

Given his penchant for key drops, however, I am pretty sure Paul is showing speed and little else. Something that Cooley never really possessed. It seems to me, Paul is Davis' back-up and Cooley is Paulson's back-up. At this stage of their respective careers, Paulson is hands down the better player.
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^ i dont think he was really given that much of a shot, 90% of his time on the field he was blocking/decoy..

You don't get playing time in the game until you can prove it in practice. It's Shanny's way. Always has, always will. If he can't beat out Davis or Paulsen in practice, it tells you all you need to know. His injuries have slowed him down over the seasons unfortunately and he's one person who couldn't afford to lose a step.
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You don't get playing time in the game until you can prove it in practice. It's Shanny's way. Always has, always will. If he can't beat out Davis or Paulsen in practice, it tells you all you need to know. His injuries have slowed him down over the seasons unfortunately and he's one person who couldn't afford to lose a step.
That theory only holds water as far as Niles Paul, and B Banks before that. What, are you telling us Paul forgets how to catch, run routes and block every game but does it to perfection on the weekdays? C'mon man.

You could make the argument Shanny rewards "potential" but even that has exceptions.
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:12 AM   #12
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That theory only holds water as far as Niles Paul, and B Banks before that. What, are you telling us Paul forgets how to catch, run routes and block every game but does it to perfection on the weekdays? C'mon man.

You could make the argument Shanny rewards "potential" but even that has exceptions.
Niles Paul is basically third string. He hasn't even beat out Paulsen for the position. They had him at 3rd string for his potential, not because he was a polished product. That is what you are supposed to do with guys with high upsides. Also, Paul plays special teams, Cooley does not.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:50 PM   #13
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We dont need cooley on our roster, paul is quick and still coming into his own, Paulsen proved himself viable and davis is great.. most people are only talking about it cuz.the.guy was a fan favorite and its the offseason, we.talk about whatever.we.CAN , in the offseason lol... no alternate universe
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:36 PM   #14
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We dont need cooley on our roster, paul is quick and still coming into his own, ...

Agree, Cooley's done. But has Paul truly proven himself? Not sure I saw enough last year to be happy about the position yet.

Regardless, S.Sharpe broke out in his 3rd year as a TE, perhaps it could get better for Paul and he certainly has an elite QB throwing to him.
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:43 AM   #15
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Nothing at TE? Exaggerate much?
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