ESPN Unveils 2013 Jaws’ QB Countdown List

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Originally Posted by Giantone

You want your "list" to be taken seriously and I understand opinions and such ,yet you say that 2 of the only 3 QB's playing in the NFL right now with more than one Super Bowl win are only good not "elite" .I realize you're a hater but really , the list is a joke. Rivers ahead of Eli is a joke in it's self but to have him with Brees and Big Ben it boarders on , well , drug testing.

This from the guy who thinks

Originally Posted by Giantone

Top 5 , my 5 Brady ,Rogers ,Brees ,Roethlisberger , Eli , Peyton is 6 to me playoffs and super bowls are what it is about.

I guess by your criteria of playoffs and SBs, Dilfer = Peyton too, right? If not, explain and contradict yourself.

Rivers stats: LINK
116 starts, 2,268 of 3,564 (63.6) for 27,891 yards (7.8), 189 touchdowns and 93 interceptions. Career QBR 94.5.

E. Manning stats: LINK
135 starts, 2,612 of 4,457 (58.6) for 31,527 yards (7.1), 211 touchdowns and 144 interceptions. Career QBR 82.7.

Among other stats favoring Rivers, wow Eli has well over 50% MORE INTS than Philip.


The other career stats from the link above: Rivers has better completion %, better avg. gain, better yds/game, better TD %, better INT %, and better QBR.

And if you watch them play, there is really no comparison. Rivers makes quicker reads and has a better arm. He has to, Rivers has never had as good an OL as Eli has. The Gnats won two SB *despite* trading Rivers for Manning. Another reason they were lucky, not good. 'Course, I'm glad NY didn't get Rivers, they probably would have won at least one more SB with Philip.


TLDR: Philip >>> Eli. Indisputably. E.Manning isn't even in the same class as Rivers mano-a-mano. The only thing you can say in favor of Eli in this comparison is better "lucky" than good, he didn't earn more rings than Rivers himself.

Thanks for inspiring me to lay all this out, giantone! HTTR!