Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Hog1

It is a.......strange bond is it not?
BUT, you're right....well done

One thing that helps me is to go on You Tube (although they often take down the clips) and search for video clips, even full games, for the Redskins from the 80's and early 90's. It helps me to remind myself why it is I have such a strange but loyal bond with the team.

How I wish I could find someone who has a decent collection of these old games that would be willing to put them on DVD for me.

[Lotus]

Only two things will stop me from rooting for the team: aging dementia and death.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

One thing that helps me is to go on You Tube (although they often take down the clips) and search for video clips, even full games, for the Redskins from the 80's and early 90's. It helps me to remind myself why it is I have such a strange but loyal bond with the team.

How I wish I could find someone who has a decent collection of these old games that would be willing to put them on DVD for me.

I have 30games from '80's on vhs

[CrustyRedskin]

You'd think a coach with two SB rings could muster up a good enough team to win this panzy a$$ division. This is the worst this division has been in a decade and we cant win it. wtf. Im waiting outside the liquor store til it opens whos with me??

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

You'd think a coach with two SB rings could muster up a good enough team to win this panzy a$$ division. This is the worst this division has been in a decade and we cant win it. wtf. Im waiting outside the liquor store til it opens whos with me??

Yeah but he won those a long time ago with one of the best QB's ever. You think Tom Coughlin and the Giants aren't saying the same thing?

Even though I really don't want to see it, I think Shanahan gets 5 years. To be fair, he should get a offseason with free agency money, and one where RG3 isn't doing rehab.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yeah but he won those a long time ago with one of the best QB's ever. You think Tom Coughlin and the Giants aren't saying the same thing?

Even though I really don't want to see it, I think Shanahan gets 5 years. To be fair, he should get a offseason with free agency money, and one where RG3 isn't doing rehab.

I hope MS gets 5 years, let him spend some of that $$$.

[Starry Plough]

Ah chara Warpath!

After years of visiting the site and seeing the fantastic craic that’s had, not to mention the many insightful debates that go on, I finally thought I’d take the plunge and post myself.

It sucks that the organisation has seen so many changes for change sake over the years, as it perhaps makes the path forward that bit more difficult to see with real clarity which direction is best.

Had Mike been allowed to spend freely in FA the past 2 off-seasons and the team still be performing as it is now, then the decision to cut him loose would likely be a no-brainer. I for one am swaying towards wanting to see how this team would look if a better calibre of player hand picked by Shanny could be had, but then at the same time, I keep asking has he done enough in the almost 4 full seasons to justify being allowed to return and spend that money in 2014?

Then there’s the suggestions that the game has passed him by etc, and that could be accurate to an extent. It’s no coincidence that folk on here, as well as John Keim (amongst others) have highlighted issues with the line (to name one) being overwhelmed by guys who are stronger, but just as quick, which in turn nulifies the kind of personnel Shanny opts for i.e. undersized but athletic guys. Is this a sign then that his famed scheme which worked so effectively for him in Denver during the 90’s is an old school approach and he’s unable to adjust?

Maybe. I do know though that last season proved that he (and of course Kyle, but we’ll just focus on Snr for now) is still capable of putting together an offense that can go toe to toe with most in the league. Again however, the flip side makes me ask was that simply a combination of momentum and good fortune? I don’t believe so personally. I saw too many good things from too many players (even average ones). So where do the issues lie then?

I guess it’s normal when there seems to be no answers that that’s when most questions arise.

On a side note, one name I haven’t seen on anyone’s lists is Mike Zimmer. Wasn’t he considered someone who was sure to get a HC gig at some point not so long ago? Just curious as personally speaking, if the team were to move on from Mike then I’d like to see a defensive guy take over, albeit with an up and coming young mind as offensive co-ordinator ah-la Phil Montgomery or David Shaw.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Starry Plough

Had Mike been allowed to spend freely in FA the past 2 off-seasons and the team still be performing as it is now, then the decision to cut him loose would likely be a no-brainer. I for one am swaying towards wanting to see how this team would look if a better calibre of player hand picked by Shanny could be had, but then at the same time, I keep asking has he done enough in the almost 4 full seasons to justify being allowed to return and spend that money in 2014?

Welcome to the debate, SP!

I think that what you posted above is pretty much the heart of the matter. How much was the program set back by the $36M cap penalty? I tend to side with you in leaning toward another year for Shanny. I want to find out what he can do by adding a strong FA group and another draft class prior to next season. Honestly, I'm just not emotionally prepared to start over again.

Of course, there are other concerns besides player personnel that I would hope to see addressed in the off-season but upgrading the roster is paramount, IMO.

[RFKRat]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

You'd think a coach with two SB rings could muster up a good enough team to win this panzy a$$ division. This is the worst this division has been in a decade and we cant win it. wtf. Im waiting outside the liquor store til it opens whos with me??

Unfortunately, those wins were a long, long time ago. For all his hype, the man has won one playoff game, just one, in the last fourteen seasons, soon to be fifteen. And many of those years he has had much more talented teams than this one.

The game has clearly passed him by and that's more and more evident with each passing game. But he's also arrogant and that's a lousy combination. To think that the Giants were recently a laughaboe 0-6 and now the Skins are tied with them for last place in the worst division in football. This franchise has been in a slow death spiral for two decades and nothing is going to change.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

I have 30games from '80's on vhs

Hhhmmmm....any way you could make me a copy of those games? I would love to have them. They don't stay up long enough on You Tube.