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Old 03-03-2014, 10:53 AM   #1
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Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.
That's stupid. Not attacking you of course, you're just the messenger here. But what a ridiculous notion.

Tagging him is reflective of how hard it is to find an elite pass rusher. They hardly ever hit the open market, the only way to get one is draft them high. Or if they actually do hit the market, pay through the absolute nose to get one.

If you want a successful defense in today's passing league, you have to pony up. Some positions are just more important than others. You need a good LT, you need a good QB, you need a good pass rush and you need good CBs. The budget for those positions should be high.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:00 AM   #2
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That's stupid. Not attacking you of course, you're just the messenger here. But what a ridiculous notion.

Tagging him is reflective of how hard it is to find an elite pass rusher. They hardly ever hit the open market, the only way to get one is draft them high. Or if they actually do hit the market, pay through the absolute nose to get one.

If you want a successful defense in today's passing league, you have to pony up. Some positions are just more important than others. You need a good LT, you need a good QB, you need a good pass rush and you need good CBs. The budget for those positions should be high.
Yeah I agree. Said Rak is a Danny guy. Like I said last night, the market to replace Rak is thin and at our position in the draft it's kinda thin for 3-4 olbs.

The franchise tag just gives us leverage to get a deal done as well as to gage the market. No problem with it
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:25 AM   #3
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Yeah I agree. Said Rak is a Danny guy. Like I said last night, the market to replace Rak is thin and at our position in the draft it's kinda thin for 3-4 olbs.

The franchise tag just gives us leverage to get a deal done as well as to gage the market. No problem with it
I'm in that same camp. Bottom line is while he's not a Matthews, Watt or Ware, he's still the best player we have at that position, the right age and one of our own assets that we've cultivated. I'd like to see a long term deal soon so that we can reduce his '14 cap number but at this point, I'm just glad we avoided the drama of him leaving and being a thorn in our side wearing another jersey.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:33 AM   #4
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I'm happy to hear that we are tagging Rak. Can't just let him walk away.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:40 AM   #5
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That's stupid. Not attacking you of course, you're just the messenger here. But what a ridiculous notion.

Tagging him is reflective of how hard it is to find an elite pass rusher. They hardly ever hit the open market, the only way to get one is draft them high. Or if they actually do hit the market, pay through the absolute nose to get one.

If you want a successful defense in today's passing league, you have to pony up. Some positions are just more important than others. You need a good LT, you need a good QB, you need a good pass rush and you need good CBs. The budget for those positions should be high.
He's not elite! That's part of the reason that they are not a good to great defense. They don't have great talent anywhere!
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:53 AM   #6
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Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.
lol it's always Dan's fault.

Sign big name free agents, F Dan.

Attempt to keep our own free agent, F Dan.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:15 AM   #7
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Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.
Eh, I think he's more just pointing out that among the Redskins brain trust Snyder is far and away Rak's biggest supporter
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:54 AM   #8
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"Danny Boy Move"....sounds like a trustworthy source.


No, doing what we can to keep Orakpo in B&G is the right move, no matter who is responsible for it.

Rob Jackson is great off the bench and had that big INT to win vs. Dallas, but he's no Orakpo.

We'll regret it if we let him walk out the door.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:56 AM   #9
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Franchising him doesn't mean talks stop. The goal for both sides is still a long term deal.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:58 AM   #10
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Let his contract expire if you have the ability to replace him, bottom line is the skins cannot replace him this year. I am sure Haslett wants this guy around for his new defense as well. We can still build a solid team with Rak's one year franchise deal. Hell we won the division without 18mil of cap space. Everybody wants to keep going back two years so let's do it with the cap as well.
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:32 PM   #11
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Hell we won the division without 18mil of cap space

...and we won it WITHOUT Orakpo.
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Old 03-03-2014, 12:24 PM   #12
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Kind of torn on this Rak thing, IMO not elite dosent have a 2nd or 3rd move what is he working on in the off season, but we need to keep him. Can't blame him for wanting to make top dollar, QB'S do the same there's no I in TEAM until contract time. Hopefully they can work something out. HTTR.
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Old 03-03-2014, 12:27 PM   #13
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Dont believe that crap about they are debating on wether or not to franchise Orakpo. They are either signing him to a long term deal or franchising him. Period. 2014 He is a Redskin(as long as our name does not change).
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:15 PM   #14
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To improve our pass rush (and add to Orakpo's value) we need to get more push out of our DE's. My plans would include improving this position.

1. Ideally, I would sign either Randy Starks or Michael Johnson.

or

2. If Brandon Jenkins is ready to handle 3rd down pash rushing duties, I'd move Ryan Kerrigan inside against a guard on obvious passing downs.

3. Hopefully, Chris Baker will lose some weight and gain some speed and quickness to help with his pass rush. Jarvis Jenkins might improve, as well, in his second season after knee surgery.

4. Carriker and Bowen need to be cut to clear more cap space.
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:26 PM   #15
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@HTTR24_7

Assuming Werder's report is true, I hate the fact that Haz won out over Morroco & Scott.How do you let a coach who could be gone in a year have that pull?



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Haz shouldn't have any say so.


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Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.
When did he say that?
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