2014 draft prospects Early edition

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Waiting three years (or five years) to judge a draft is basically waiting for revisionism to judge a draft.

Some prefer that methodology, I understand. Less risk of being wrong. You can fit narratives to everything after x about of time. Matt Leinart -> parties too much. Etc.

But there's a difference between writing a post-mortem on someone's career and judging assets in a trade, or judging a move in context.

Example: we didn't need the last two seasons to judge the validity of the Mike Shanahan hire. All the information we needed to conclude that it was a bad hire was available two years ago. But since then, he had his best and worst season here. Those events are part of the Mike Shanahan story, but contained no new information about the joke of a coaching search the team ran in 2009.

I'm not necessarily against revisionism in any form, but I don't think waiting until hindsight is 50/50 makes a ton of sense.

So basically, unless the players have an immediate impact, the draft was a failure. However, if you wait three years to see how players develop, you are justing filling your own narrative.

Seahawks have had some bad drafts by those measures then, because those drafts weren't considered good moves at the time and it took a year or two for a lot of their high impact players to develop. Well I guess a Super Bowl Championship creates revisionist history on draft picks and how successful they are then.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So basically, unless the players have an immediate impact, the draft was a failure. However, if you wait three years to see how players develop, you are justing filling your own narrative.

Seahawks have had some bad drafts by those measures then, because those drafts weren't considered good moves at the time and it took a year or two for a lot of their high impact players to develop. Well I guess a Super Bowl Championship creates revisionist history on draft picks and how successful they are then.

I don't think a two year impact and immediate impact are the same thing at all. People do jump to conclusions after 4 or 5 games. But 32 games is certainly not too early.

Anyone who changes their opinion of a player after a Super Bowl is the very definition of a revisionist.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think a two year impact and immediate impact are the same thing at all. People do jump to conclusions after 4 or 5 games. But 32 games is certainly not too early.

Anyone who changes their opinion of a player after a Super Bowl is the very definition of a revisionist.

The Rams trade basically was trading for a franchise QB. Luck went #1 and Russell Wilson got a ring. Outside of those two what other franchise QBs have been drafted? None. It will become obvious the skins won the trade when the Rams have to swallow and try to find a QB.


Rams have added lots of players and Clemens looked better than Sam. Those two WRs from West Virginia so far haven't done much. They got Quinn, they would have gotten at least one impact player anyway. Rams got more picks in quantity, but we won a division title and they have yet to make the playoffs.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

The Rams trade basically was trading for a franchise QB. Luck went #1 and Russell Wilson got a ring. Outside of those two what other franchise QBs have been drafted? None. It will become obvious the skins won the trade when the Rams have to swallow and try to find a QB.


Rams have added lots of players and Clemens looked better than Sam. Those two WRs from West Virginia so far haven't done much. They got Quinn, they would have gotten at least one impact player anyway. Rams got more picks in quantity, but we won a division title and they have yet to make the playoffs.

Where you are wrong is you think RG3 is a franchise QB. He had a nice rookie season running a unconventional offense where he rushed for 800 yards and 7 to 8 td's. He's not going to be able to do that and have a long career. Right now he can't carry the offense w/out running as we saw last year. Let's hope there's a better balance with him, passing and some running.