Ukraine mega thread

[That Guy]

you need a full plan. you can't send guys in without an end game, that's what makes a quagmire.

what's the exit plan if we go in? invade russia? bomb moscow? how far are they going to go? it's pointless to put in peacekeepers if they end up getting shot at, cause then you need to commit to a full ground war or pull them out, say "my bad" and let the country get steamrolled.

the best bet is to set up independent enegry (shale) and export it to undermine their economy, which is based on high price point oil. that takes away the most direct control they have over neighboring countries and makes it very difficult to keep people happy/services running/the military on a war footing.

a shooting war is the worst thing that could happen. surveillance and intelligence sharing is fine, making sure the ukranians have high end StA and AT weapons is a good precaution (as that's the cheapest way to destroy the highest $$ worth of their military), and using it as an excuse to set up missile defense and an air base in poland could be a useful chip in getting them to de-escalate (which can be tied to abandoning those projects).