Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

[That Guy]

it just seems like everyone that's super adamant about changing the name aren't actual native americans, but white liberals trying to get press/make a name/act like some white knight riding in.

the bullets name change happened because the owner wanted it to. DC had a high crime rate and a lot of gun-related homicides (and baltimore had always been near or at #1 in that stat too), and he didn't like that connotation with the team... for what i remember about it.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by That Guy

it just seems like everyone that's super adamant about changing the name aren't actual native americans, but white liberals trying to get press/make a name/act like some white knight riding in.

the bullets name change happened because the owner wanted it to. DC had a high crime rate and a lot of gun-related homicides (and baltimore had always been near or at #1 in that stat too), and he didn't like that connotation with the team... for what i remember about it.

^agreed.

Hypothetically, what in the world changes if the Redskins change their name. Do Native American's live in a better world, more accepting, with more advantages?

Do we change the way we see Native American's in the world, now that white liberals (no knock on liberals) have taken up their cause for them?

I mean- I just don't see the end game here. Calling a word offensive because it used to be a slur, just doesn't make sense to me. It's undergone amelioration. If we went through the lexicon and removed all the words that USED to be some sort of slur, we would have to re-write the dictionary.

At this point, it's a tired argument. I'm ready to just change the name and move on. I think this debate has been a slap in the face to the Native American's- who won't get their history back. It's like all the aid we give to these 3rd world countries. A little pat on the back, "hey guys, we care".

African nations don't won't our patronizing aid, they want us to invest into their economy and profit off their own success. I don't know... going on a bid of a tangent, but I just think this whole debate is nauseating. It's one thing if it were organized by a Native American constituency who found the word discriminatory.

I'm ready to change the name, and move on.

[Dirtbag59]

Reid is the last person that should be arguing for anything. He is essentially the lefts answer to Ted Cruz. Right now a significant portion of the internet is at risk for the sake of benefiting a company who can barely get their stock price over the $50 mark with a virtual monopoly and we're focusing on the name of a football team.

Comcast is Buying Our Democracy (And Harry Reid Doesn’t Care Because He’s Already Been Bought) | Washington Free Beacon

Then there are the campaign committees. Comcast donations to the Democratic National Committee and Democratic House and Senate committees total more than $1.8 million. And Comcast would certainly be short-changing its shareholders if it hadn’t bought off Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) as well. Don’t worry, they have.

Comcast is the fifth largest contributor to Reid’s campaign committee in the current cycle. The majority leader has received $76,550 from Comcast employees, and $23,000 from the company’s political action committees. He’s received an additional $101,350 from Comcast lobbyists and their family members. That includes $5,800 from Comcast lobbyist Waldo McMillan, a former Reid aide.

Oh yeah, there’s also the fact that Reid’s current chief of staff, David Krone, is a former senior vice president of corporate affairs at Comcast, and a former donor to Reid’s campaign. After joining Reid’s staff in 2008, Krone received a $1.2 million “severance” package from Comcast. More specifically, the company purchased Krone’s condo from him at a price well above the market value.

We already know that Harry Reid takes money from associates of the “un-American” Koch brothers. Now he’s willing to sit by and allow a giant cable corporation to buy our democracy, as long as they continue to fund his campaign/granddaughter’s trinket business. He might as well wear a Comcast insignia on his suit to denote its sponsorship.

Harry Reid Speaks Softly On Net Neutrality

Reid is the only Democrat who actually controls a chamber -- and thus the only one in place to block House action on net neutrality. But for now, and unlike many of his colleagues, he's mostly keeping quiet.

So in short this is Harry Reid on Net Neutrality, and this is Harry Reid on the Redskins name. (Note: Harry Reid is Shy Ronnie in these examples)