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Old 02-18-2015, 06:23 PM   #1
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Pretty clear he's pointing the finger in a big way at Snyder

Mike Shanahan blames Daniel Snyder for RGIII’s infatuation with being an Aaron Rodgers-type guy - The Washington Post
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:08 PM   #2
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Pretty terrible if this is true. Snyder is such a f$cking piece of shit.

People say it's the curse of the name which is epic bullshit. The curse of this franchise is Dan Snyder
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:38 PM   #3
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I think the headline there is off. He wasn't laying blame IMO. Obviously Griffin wanted to be a drop back passer. Obviously the owner wanted the same. The main problem was/is he's just not good enough to do it. You think MS was wrong in stating that? He knew Grffin couldn't do it and that's been confirmed with his play. That's why Griffin had one offense and KC had another. The truth hurts for Griffin and the pro Griffin crowd.

I've always said this about Griffin. He's a track athlete playing football. He just doesn't have QB instincts. You either have that or you don't. They can coach him up all they want, but he'll never be great at the drop back game.
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I think the headline there is off. He wasn't laying blame IMO. Obviously Griffin wanted to be a drop back passer. Obviously the owner wanted the same. The main problem was/is he's just not good enough to do it. You think MS was wrong in stating that? He knew Grffin couldn't do it and that's been confirmed with his play. That's why Griffin had one offense and KC had another. The truth hurts for Griffin and the pro Griffin crowd.

I've always said this about Griffin. He's a track athlete playing football. He just doesn't have QB instincts. You either have that or you don't. They can coach him up all they want, but he'll never be great at the drop back game.
I think he said it would take five years.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:53 AM   #5
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I think the headline there is off. He wasn't laying blame IMO. Obviously Griffin wanted to be a drop back passer. Obviously the owner wanted the same. The main problem was/is he's just not good enough to do it. You think MS was wrong in stating that? He knew Grffin couldn't do it and that's been confirmed with his play. That's why Griffin had one offense and KC had another. The truth hurts for Griffin and the pro Griffin crowd.

I've always said this about Griffin. He's a track athlete playing football. He just doesn't have QB instincts. You either have that or you don't. They can coach him up all they want, but he'll never be great at the drop back game.
When I listened to the interview I heard MS say that RG could become a pocket QB but it would take awhile so RG had to trust that the coaches were creating an offense that would give the Skins the best chance to win while slowly increasing what RG does as a drop back QB.

Unfortunately for everyone RG didnt trust his coaches to slowly develop him into a pocket QB and we know the rest of the sad story.
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I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.
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I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.
Good points, Id probably believe half of it. I think Shanny did want McNabb and was good with it. I do believe the Shanny part where he accused of Snyder of meddling because Snyder clearly has a history of that.
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SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements.
Poor Bruce. That sounds a lot like something Smithers would do.
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Poor Bruce. That sounds a lot like something Smithers would do.
From the sound of things, we should not pity Bruce. Descriptions of Bruce seem to indicate that he takes pride in being Smithers.
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I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.
Yeah, it's often not Bruce that says that. It's other in the organization. Others who are team execs, but not really football execs. Would probably be easier to take if the (then) GM was saying that

As for the McNabb deal what I'd always heard and believe mentioned is that Bruce got wind of the opportunity to acquire McNabb (I think during the combines) approached both Snyder and Shanahan about it. Snyder loved the idea and Mike Shanahan did not. Kyle especially did not
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Yeah, it's often not Bruce that says that. It's other in the organization. Others who are team execs, but not really football execs. Would probably be easier to take if the (then) GM was saying that

As for the McNabb deal what I'd always heard and believe mentioned is that Bruce got wind of the opportunity to acquire McNabb (I think during the combines) approached both Snyder and Shanahan about it. Snyder loved the idea and Mike Shanahan did not. Kyle especially did not
Thank you for that. It's nice to know, in a sad way, that Bruce was responsible for the McNabb debacle.
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Thank you for that. It's nice to know, in a sad way, that Bruce was responsible for the McNabb debacle.
Pretty evident Shanny was right; owner, gm, Qb and coach not on the same pages...its called dysfunction folks
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