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Old 11-28-2015, 09:14 AM   #1
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You are conflating the issue. I have always been talking about how Russ/Kaep played during their SB run. You are jumping around and somehow including your opinion of them this year and your overall opinion of them which both have nothing to do with how they played in those years.
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You really think our personnel on offense is laughably inferior to theirs? Do you remember the Seahawks offense players?

And their OL is everybit as spotty as ours.
Sorry, when you used the present tense, I thought you were referencing the present tense.

Lynch was the #2 running back in the league in 2011: FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | RUNNING BACKS 2011

The DIFFERENCE WAS RUSSELL WILSON. He came in and was not Tavaris Jackson or Charlie Whitehurst.

Wilson was 29th in the league in 2012 in passing yards per game.

The qualifier is that there are a number of other QBs that could have done the same thing with that team. Rex Grossman's D wasn't even compared to the '85 bears D like Wilson's and he game managed his way to a SB.

As I said earlier, for a team like the Seahawks with a great D and HOF running back, a QB can be 29th in the league in passing yards per game and play well. That's all he had to do to win. Good for him. All QBs should be that lucky.

The proof is in the pudding. Without Lynch, even with the D, Wilson ranks in the bottom half of the league; 17th.

His performance has trended exactly the opposite of what teams want. His F.O. ranking has declined every year even with Lynch; but he has been good enough to win with a HOF RB and the best D.

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Well when I look at this offense it looks to me like Kirk is being aided by a passing game designed and called to protect and facilitate his success which has come at the detriment of the run game.
It's quotes like this that make me wonder if you're sincere, or just saying crazy stuff to get a reaction.

If they would have propped up RGIII like they are Kirk. . . Infinity and beyond!
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Old 11-28-2015, 12:47 PM   #2
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I'm trying hard to move on. Really. But when you hood up simple passing yards as if that's a useful measure of QB performance i gotta call BS.

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Old 11-28-2015, 01:11 PM   #3
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I'm trying hard to move on. Really. But when you hood up simple passing yards as if that's a useful measure of QB performance i gotta call BS.
I don't think you are.

Your call of BS is duly noted.

Seattle was dead last (ranked 32nd) in passing attempts in 2012:
2012 NFL Team Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

Seattle was 1st in rushing attempts in 2012:
2012 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

2013:
Seattle ranked 2nd in rushing attempts and 31st in passing attempts.
2012 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
2013 NFL Team Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

2014:
Seattle ranked 2nd in rushing attempts and 32nd in passing attempts.
2014 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
2014 NFL Team Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
2015:

Seattle ranks 4th in rushing attempts and 31st in passing attempts.
2015 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
2015 NFL Team Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

There is a big difference in getting to pass the ball versus having to pass the ball.

Wilson has been carried by Lynch and the D his whole career.

He has been good the few times they let him throw the ball.

2015 Lynch hasn't been able to carry the load and Wilson is struggling at 5-5 because the D is still tip top. 2nd and 5 is a lot different than 2nd and 9.
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