Around the nfl week 14

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I've always bought that, even in 2012. Imo Wilson has been underrated for awhile.

Now Cousins vs Luck? Not sure if serious.

I am dead serious about Cousins v Luck. Now to be fair I have been a negative Nelly on Luck from day 1. Saw Gruden's QB carousel show with him and decided that he wasn't what the Luck cult was selling. I had started to turnaround on him, but then this year happened.

Look at Cousins this year, vs Luck's 2013(2nd year starter) stats

..................Cousins.....Luck
Games ...........13,.........16
Completion % 69.2,......60.2
Yards / Game 254.2,....238.9
TD %..............4.0,....... 4.0
INT % .............2.4, ......1.6
40_+ yds .........6, ........ 9
Sacks ..............23,....... 32
Rating .............93.2, .... 87.0

stats are from NFL stats page.

I'm not saying Kirk definitely is better than Luck, but I have never held Luck on any type of pedestal either.

edit: I hate white space formatting in these!

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am dead serious about Cousins v Luck. Now to be fair I have been a negative Nelly on Luck from day 1. Saw Gruden's QB carousel show with him and decided that he wasn't what the Luck cult was selling. I had started to turnaround on him, but then this year happened.
I'm not saying Kirk definitely is better than Luck, but I have never held Luck on any type of pedestal either.

Trust me, I've never been in on all the Andrew Luck hype.

Luck has played good football, he no doubt has a recklessness to his game (just look at his INTs) and he came into the league with weapons on offense and day 1 on a team completely and totally centered around facilitating his success.

I watch a ton of football and there was a period of time when Tannehill and Luck (even by PFF bunch of trolls!) were just about even, PFF actually had Tannehill higher then Luck in their top 10 QBs. (which caused casual fans to meltdown). With that being said Luck was uber productive in 2014 43 total TDs 5,000+ yards of total offense.

Net/net Luck and Cousins imo shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. And when it comes to this list I don't see why anyone would exclude any part of a players career. So when it comes to Foles you can't just throw out 2013 anymore then you can discount Griffin's career based on 7 games with Jay.

[NoCalHail]

The big problem with comparing all of them against each other is that none of them have been on a team even close to how good Seattle was in 2012/13/14. You could already see a huge dip in Wilson for a lot of this season once the team around him wasn't as dominant. He has come on a little bit as of late, however I still that contract could live to haunt Seattle once they start losing pieces around him.

Let's not forget that Colin Kaepernick went to the superbowl with a dominant running game and defense with an O-coordinator who was really good at masking his deficiencies.

[kingj]

Look at Dallas, shutout 1st half against GB. Limited offensively and yet gruden tried to win the game 10-9.

That loss may be really costly. You have to gameplan knowing Dallas can't muster a lot of points. Terrible by gruden just terrible.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by kingj

Look at Dallas, shutout 1st half against GB. Limited offensively and yet gruden tried to win the game 10-9.

That loss may be really costly. You have to gameplan knowing Dallas can't muster a lot of points. Terrible by gruden just terrible.

I don't understand how you think this makes your point (and I do think Gruden needs to want more points). If Cowboys can't score than a a low scoring game plan of ball control does seem to make sense??

[Chico23231]

Dez Bryant is one overrated WR. 3 drops today.

Rod Marinelli is one hellava d coordinator...doing a great job keeping Dallas in this game.

[Ruhskins]

Andy Dalton may be done for the season per ESPN. Sucks for them.

[Alvin Walton]

How the frack did Carolina become all world this season?

[skinsfaninok]

U can't put Brock over kirk. He hasn't even done anything yet? Can't even put him over Tannehill imo.

[skinsfaninok]

Khalil mack is a freak. 5 sacks today! Oakland has some serious talent

[OmahaRedskins]

it is to early to say Osweiller is better than KC.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

it is to early to say Osweiller is better than KC.

Agree.


Let's end the weekend on a high note with a patriots loss.

[SFREDSKIN]

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Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

it is to early to say Osweiller is better than KC.

Cousins is hands down better than Osweiler. What has Osweiler done? Luck is still the best followed by Wilson. Give Luck talent like Seattle and it wouldn't even be close. Osweiler's team is loaded with talent and healthy, Cousins has 4 new linemen and 1 TE.

[punch it in]

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Cousins is hands down better than Osweiler. What has Osweiler done? Luck is still the best followed by Wilson. Give Luck talent like Seattle and it wouldn't even be close.

I tend to agree with all of this except that Wilson is much smarter than Luck. Luck has a major turnover problem.

[skinsfaninok]

Russ is turning into a big time QB, he used to just manage the game and yes that is a term.. now he is carrying the offense