Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees

BrudLee · 10-28-2005, 02:33 PM

http://www.profootballhof.com/enshri...elease_id=1791

Once again, Art Monk has made the list of potential Hall of Famers. He is joined by other former Redskins, such as Gary Clark, Russ Grimm, Irving Fryar, Ken Harvey, Charles Mann, Joe Jacoby, Dexter Manley, and other players who spent parts of their careers with the team.

As many of you are aware, we sponsor an online petition to support Art's induction into the Hall of Fame. The link is here. I urge those of you who have not signed the petition to do so, and encourage your friends and family to do likewise. It seems each year the malcontent voices of football experts rise up to tell how pedestrian a player Art Monk was - it's time we shouted back.

Thank you,

Brud Lee

mooby · 10-28-2005, 02:35 PM

i've already signed the petition, but if i sign it again, will it help? hopefully we get some peeps in there this year.

BrudLee · 10-28-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

i've already signed the petition, but if i sign it again, will it help? hopefully we get some peeps in there this year.

I erase the duplicate signatures. My plan is to send the petition off to Peter King, Dr. Z, and the loud naysayers to remind them that theirs isn't the only criteria that matters. If there are a bunch of duplicates, or "Mickey Mouse" signatures, it doesn't really help the cause.

Skins fan 44 · 10-28-2005, 03:18 PM

What a list. It looks like it could be a cowturd class with Aikman, Johnson, and Irvin. I will just puke if that happens.

BDBohnzie · 10-28-2005, 03:33 PM

Let's look at the first year eligibles:

Troy Aikman (because of the Super Bowls, he's in)
Bruce Armstrong
Ben Coates (HA!)
Dermonti Dawson
Irving Fryar
Cortez Kennedy
Warren Moon (I'm almost thinking lock)
Andre Reed
Clyde Simmons
Neil Smith
Thurman Thomas
Jessie Tuggle
Reggie White (i'm thinking lock)

Out of this group, I'd say Aikman, Moon and White first ballot, Dawson and Armstrong possibly in the future, and Thurman Thomas is a maybe.

onlydarksets · 10-28-2005, 03:57 PM

I like that Monk's picture is front and center at the top!

MTK · 10-28-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Let's look at the first year eligibles:

Troy Aikman (because of the Super Bowls, he's in)
Bruce Armstrong
Ben Coates (HA!)
Dermonti Dawson
Irving Fryar
Cortez Kennedy
Warren Moon (I'm almost thinking lock)
Andre Reed
Clyde Simmons
Neil Smith
Thurman Thomas
Jessie Tuggle
Reggie White (i'm thinking lock)

Out of this group, I'd say Aikman, Moon and White first ballot, Dawson and Armstrong possibly in the future, and Thurman Thomas is a maybe.

The two lead pipe locks here are Aikman and White.

You can make a case for most of the others, but none of them look to be first ballot guys.

Hog1 · 10-28-2005, 04:13 PM

It's a list of some GREAT Redskins. It would be great to see them inducted. Harold Carmichael........Watching Pat Fischer wrap himself around him like some............rabid ferret takes me back! Cool

RDSKNZ · 10-28-2005, 04:20 PM

I have no problem with Aikman making it. The thing that will piss me off is if Irvin makes it before Monk. Monk leads Irvin in all stats except yards per catch and you can attribute that to how they were used. I was sick when I learned Irvin made it farther in the voting last year than Monk. You can attribute that to Irvin's mouth and the fact that he is an announcer. Monk by far has more class than Irvin and deserves to be in the HOF before Irvin(who was repeatedly in trouble off the field). Thanks for starting the petition I hope it makes a difference and puts him over the top.

aehs77 · 10-28-2005, 05:33 PM

Andre Reed was also a redskin for a year or two

BrudLee · 10-28-2005, 06:58 PM

I believe Aikman is a Hall of Fame player, but a QB who holds no records, never dominated statistically, and was surrounded by as much talent as he was isn't a "lead pipe lock" for the Hall on his first ballot.

This isn't a "Slam Aikman" feeling - he plays an overvalued position, and while he was very good at it, I don't know that he was dominant in his era at the position. He should and will be inducted, but he's no slam dunk.

MTK · 10-28-2005, 07:34 PM

Aikman was a media darling.

He led the Cowboys to 3 titles and they were a true dynasty in the 90s. I'd be shocked if he didn't get in first ballot.

FRPLG · 10-28-2005, 07:47 PM

Monk was more dominate than Aikman period. It is one of the most dreadful travesties in sports today: A guy who is like top 5 in almost every significant category doesn't get the props he deserves. Makes me sad to think about it.

MTK · 10-28-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Monk was more dominate than Aikman period. It is one of the most dreadful travesties in sports today: A guy who is like top 5 in almost every significant category doesn't get the props he deserves. Makes me sad to think about it.

Difference is Aikman played QB, the ultimate glamour position in all of sports.

His stats are pretty decent, but the rings and his winning % put him over the top.

onlydarksets · 10-28-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Difference is Aikman played QB, the ultimate glamour position in all of sports.

His stats are pretty decent, but the rings and his winning % put him over the top.

I'm sorry - didn't Monk play for the Skins in 1982, 1987, and 1991?

10-28-2005, 02:33 PM	#1
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees http://www.profootballhof.com/enshri...elease_id=1791 Once again, Art Monk has made the list of potential Hall of Famers. He is joined by other former Redskins, such as Gary Clark, Russ Grimm, Irving Fryar, Ken Harvey, Charles Mann, Joe Jacoby, Dexter Manley, and other players who spent parts of their careers with the team. As many of you are aware, we sponsor an online petition to support Art's induction into the Hall of Fame. The link is here. I urge those of you who have not signed the petition to do so, and encourage your friends and family to do likewise. It seems each year the malcontent voices of football experts rise up to tell how pedestrian a player Art Monk was - it's time we shouted back. Thank you, Brud Lee __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too. Last edited by BrudLee; 11-09-2005 at 09:25 AM.

10-28-2005, 02:35 PM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees i've already signed the petition, but if i sign it again, will it help? hopefully we get some peeps in there this year.

10-28-2005, 03:18 PM	#4
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees What a list. It looks like it could be a cowturd class with Aikman, Johnson, and Irvin. I will just puke if that happens. __________________ HTTR!

10-28-2005, 03:33 PM	#5
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 46 Posts: 4,628	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees Let's look at the first year eligibles: Troy Aikman (because of the Super Bowls, he's in) Bruce Armstrong Ben Coates (HA!) Dermonti Dawson Irving Fryar Cortez Kennedy Warren Moon (I'm almost thinking lock) Andre Reed Clyde Simmons Neil Smith Thurman Thomas Jessie Tuggle Reggie White (i'm thinking lock) Out of this group, I'd say Aikman, Moon and White first ballot, Dawson and Armstrong possibly in the future, and Thurman Thomas is a maybe. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-28-2005, 03:57 PM	#6
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees I like that Monk's picture is front and center at the top!

10-28-2005, 04:13 PM	#8
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees It's a list of some GREAT Redskins. It would be great to see them inducted. Harold Carmichael........Watching Pat Fischer wrap himself around him like some............rabid ferret takes me back! Cool __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-28-2005, 04:20 PM	#9
RDSKNZ Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hickory, North Carolina Age: 52 Posts: 10	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees I have no problem with Aikman making it. The thing that will piss me off is if Irvin makes it before Monk. Monk leads Irvin in all stats except yards per catch and you can attribute that to how they were used. I was sick when I learned Irvin made it farther in the voting last year than Monk. You can attribute that to Irvin's mouth and the fact that he is an announcer. Monk by far has more class than Irvin and deserves to be in the HOF before Irvin(who was repeatedly in trouble off the field). Thanks for starting the petition I hope it makes a difference and puts him over the top.

10-28-2005, 05:33 PM	#10
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 40 Posts: 486	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees Andre Reed was also a redskin for a year or two

10-28-2005, 06:58 PM	#11
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees I believe Aikman is a Hall of Fame player, but a QB who holds no records, never dominated statistically, and was surrounded by as much talent as he was isn't a "lead pipe lock" for the Hall on his first ballot. This isn't a "Slam Aikman" feeling - he plays an overvalued position, and while he was very good at it, I don't know that he was dominant in his era at the position. He should and will be inducted, but he's no slam dunk. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

10-28-2005, 07:34 PM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees Aikman was a media darling. He led the Cowboys to 3 titles and they were a true dynasty in the 90s. I'd be shocked if he didn't get in first ballot.

10-28-2005, 07:47 PM	#13
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees Monk was more dominate than Aikman period. It is one of the most dreadful travesties in sports today: A guy who is like top 5 in almost every significant category doesn't get the props he deserves. Makes me sad to think about it.

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