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Old 02-15-2018, 04:09 PM   #1
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Yeah I get it, but politicians have expressed grief countless times after these things. I just don't care what they have to say. I'm only interested in what they do.

I'm normally a GOP voter, but I hope they hear me when I say I will vote Dem until meaningful solutions to preventing mass casualty gun violence is enacted, especially mass casualty gun violence in school settings.

I'm a one issue voter from here on, until it gets properly dealt with. So they can flap their gums all they want, I don't care what they say. And that goes for me too, I'm not going to vent on Facebook, I'm not going to debate about in on the WP, I'm just going to vote.
Let me ask Schneed most mass shootings happen in heavily democratic areas. Why would you boycott Republicans when they don't have as many in their localities? In my opinion the democrats fixation on a gun control solution is the biggest obstacle to solving this. The democrats refuse to look at obvious solutions like emergency action plans and including armed security. Gun control advocates block all other rational discussions.
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:47 PM   #2
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Let me ask Schneed most mass shootings happen in heavily democratic areas. Why would you boycott Republicans when they don't have as many in their localities? In my opinion the democrats fixation on a gun control solution is the biggest obstacle to solving this. The democrats refuse to look at obvious solutions like emergency action plans and including armed security. Gun control advocates block all other rational discussions.
Well, first, my vote is local, isn't it? I'd be voting for my representative to US Congress, the 7th PA district. And I'd be voting for my US Senator from PA. And I'd be voting for my state reps, and my township council, etc.

I would insist on voting for those representatives who would be willing to enact policies that would be stronger than are currently on the books, because I'm not satisfied with the efforts at a local level any more than I am on a national level.

In fact I just started a post in my local school district's PTO Facebook page as to whether there are any laws on the books that would prevent our school district from hiring armed security to be stationed on our school campuses. I'd be more interested in tangible actions at the local level to specifically protect my children.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:09 PM   #3
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Well, first, my vote is local, isn't it? I'd be voting for my representative to US Congress, the 7th PA district. And I'd be voting for my US Senator from PA. And I'd be voting for my state reps, and my township council, etc.

I would insist on voting for those representatives who would be willing to enact policies that would be stronger than are currently on the books, because I'm not satisfied with the efforts at a local level any more than I am on a national level.

In fact I just started a post in my local school district's PTO Facebook page as to whether there are any laws on the books that would prevent our school district from hiring armed security to be stationed on our school campuses. I'd be more interested in tangible actions at the local level to specifically protect my children.
See that all makes sense to me.
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Let me ask Schneed most mass shootings happen in heavily democratic areas. Why would you boycott Republicans when they don't have as many in their localities? In my opinion the democrats fixation on a gun control solution is the biggest obstacle to solving this. The democrats refuse to look at obvious solutions like emergency action plans and including armed security. Gun control advocates block all other rational discussions.
This is simply not true. First that assumes that democratic areas are in a void without inputs and outputs from surrounding areas. It is well documented that Chicago's plight involves an influx of guns from areas with far more liberal gun regulations. The pipeline from VA to Baltimore, Philly and NYC is equally documented. Furthermore the states with highest per capita gun violence all have republican leadership https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ty/firearm.htm

I also disagree that dems refuse to look at valid solutions. For example Baltimore County votes democrat yet requires all high schools to have a school resource officer that not only patrols but has an office in the school. I confess I do not have the answers I do agree that improved diagnosis and monitoring of mental illness but it is irrelevant if we continue to allow diagnosed individuals access to guns like we did with Devin Patrick Kelley. I also think that republicans are very complicit in not establishing dialogue by completely dismissing the idea of gun control, tougher regulations like closing the boyfriend loophole, which also would've been applicable in Kelley's situation.
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