Dwayne Haskins

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by mooby

It absolutely makes a difference.

It means if Haskins ever has a disagreement with Gruden, he can walk past Gruden's office and take his beef to Dan. It means it can undermine the respect other players have for Haskins if they know he's bff's with Dan.

The only player the quarterback needs to have a good relationship with is his coaches, as they are the ones who are going to put him in position to succeed. Not Doug Williams, not Bruce Allen, and especially not Dan Snyder.

Did you literally learn nothing from the RG3 fiasco?

It makes no differences.

What you're doing here is creating a hypothetical to push your false narrative. Is there any verifiable evidence that Haskins and Jay Gruden don't get along? Unless you have some evidence of that then your "what ifs" are totally irrelevant. And if we got players who are ass hurt that Haskins "might" have a good relationship with the owner. Then tells me too things:

1) We have a weak ass locker room filled with a bunch of soy boys who's more focus on shit that doesn't matter instead of doing their job. We might need to replace those gossiping little girls with real men who realize they got a job to do.

2) The HC is totally incompetent and should be fired. If the qb having a good relationship with the owner can fracture your locker room then you are a total failure as a coach and your locker room needs to broken down and rebuilt.

Don't take this the wrong way. But I find it odd that you think you can tell someone who that need to have a good relationship with and who that can't. Dwayne Haskins can have a good relationship with whoever he wants. If he wants to befriend DS he is free to do that. If he dislikes Jay Gruden. That is his business. He can build a relationship with whomever he likes. As long as he shows up on game day it doesn't matter who he's friends with. It doesn't matter who likes him personally or doesn't like him. The only thing we should be concerned about is his performance. His performance is going to be determined by his work ethic and not his relationship with the owner or the front office.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I'm really curious about how close Dan and Haskins are.

Sheehan said he was told by people in the organization RG3 would tell assistant coaches he was dining with the owner later and would put in a good word for them.

Really hoping Dan has learned his lesson.

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I heard all kinds of stories listening to local sports talk about how Dan gave RG3 and his family access to facilities and perks the other players did not get, which drove a wedge between him and his teammates. It was also said RG3 had a habit of letting everyone know he was Dan's favorite.

[skinsfaninok]

You guys are overthinking this way too much. Haskins was the best QB on our board after Murray, that's why he was picked at 15.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You guys are overthinking this way too much. Haskins was the best QB on our board after Murray, that's why he was picked at 15.

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Have you seen the board?

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[DYoungJelly]

Kirk would have had unbelievable numbers in Shanahan's zone run system.

He was fired because Dan wanted a coach to develop RG3. Shanahan knew he couldn't turn him into a pocket passer which is exactly what Dan and Robert wanted to happen.

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[Kope]

Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dw...ellor-seahawks

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Kope

Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dw...ellor-seahawks

PK redemption article...good stuff in here. Thanks for posting. One thing about Gruden, dude has had a tough go in DC and has done well in handling all the issues. I know a lot of folks have this team near the bottom next season...I think with Keenum and Haskins...and what we have added on the field, we are under the radar. Everything depends on Gruden and O'Connell improving the offense imo and that means getting better play at QB.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

PK redemption article...good stuff in here. Thanks for posting. One thing about Gruden, dude has had a tough go in DC and has done well in handling all the issues. I know a lot of folks have this team near the bottom next season...I think with Keenum and Haskins...and what we have added on the field, we are under the radar. Everything depends on Gruden and O'Connell improving the offense imo and that means getting better play at QB.

I actually believe there's a good chance of this.. Redskins is building a great defense (on paper) and we have a good RBs group, this definitely will help Haskins or Keenum greatly this year.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Kope

Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dw...ellor-seahawks

Great read, thanks for sharing.. I did find one small detail interesting - Gruden spoke as if he will be Redskins coach for years to come when he talked about Haskins. I'm really glad Gruden has that mindset. While I'm not biggest fan of Gruden, he did a great job of righting Redskins ship after he became Redskins coach and because of that he will always have my respect. It would be a great story if Haskins help Gruden save his job, I only hope Gruden will focus on coaching entire team and let O'Connell do his work with offense this year.

[RedskinJake]

I have to question something I read in that MMQB article... “Watched every game, every throw that they made, how they handled themselves under pressure,” Gruden said. Probably one of the primary question marks on Haskins coming into the NFL is his ability to play under pressure from a defense. He's excellent when getting through his progressions but awful when forced to make a quick read and get the ball out. I love the idea that Haskins was the guy the whole time, but don't BS me.. If Gruden was specifically targeting a QB who handles himself so well under pressure, I'm not sure Haskins is the guy you're going after. Also.. “They’re all pretty confident kids, bright-eyed. I was impressed with the entire class,” Gruden said. “But [Haskins] has a demeanor and aura about him, kind of similar to Cam Newton coming out, just an aura of confidence." WTF, Cam Newton looked like a man among boys. Haskins does not, at this point, have the confidence Cam Newton had coming into the league. I'm optimistic about Haskins but this article sounds like a lot of revisionist history BS to me..

[MTK]

^^ Unless you've talked to him how do you know what his confidence is like??

[MTK]

Cousins wanted to get paid, period

I don’t blame him either


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cousins wanted to get paid, period

I don’t blame him either


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Can't blame a guy for taking $27M a year.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cousins wanted to get paid, period

I don’t blame him either


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Cousins wanted to get paid as though he was an elite QB. Minnesota did, and they missed the playoffs even though they were loaded with talent.

I'm glad we moved on from him.