QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Again, drafting a QB makes zero sense. Tua, Burrow or whoever isn't going to come in and make this shitty team any better.

Draft Chase Young and trade Kerrigan for a 4th or 5th

Two questions. Would you agree or disagree that we are in a similar situation as the Cardinals were last year? Second, has Murray helped the Cardinals become a competitive team? I would say yes to both and that is why it makes sense.

Burrow and Tua (more so Tua w/ me) I feel are two guys that could come in and make a team like ours competitive. Right now we are not competitive. But like I said, I'm hoping that Haskins is that guy, but he just has a real long way to go and may never be that guy.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Two questions. Would you agree or disagree that we are in a similar situation as the Cardinals were last year? Second, has Murray helped the Cardinals become a competitive team? I would say yes to both and that is why it makes sense.

Burrow and Tua (more so Tua w/ me) I feel are two guys that could come in and make a team like ours competitive. Right now we are not competitive. But like I said, I'm hoping that Haskins is that guy, but he just has a real long way to go and may never be that guy.

Murray is also in a very QB friendly system with quick reads and RPO action due to his speed, he would be screwed in our system since we do not use RPO's.

I'd rather have Haskins over Tua, seriously the dude is made of glass, yeah he's accurate but if you are injury prone that doesn't matter.

If a team wants Haskins for a 1st then sure lets do it but that won't happen. Keep him and see what he can do

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Murray is also in a very QB friendly system with quick reads and RPO action due to his speed, he would be screwed in our system since we do not use RPO's.

I'd rather have Haskins over Tua, seriously the dude is made of glass, yeah he's accurate but if you are injury prone that doesn't matter.

If a team wants Haskins for a 1st then sure lets do it but that won't happen. Keep him and see what he can do

The injury concerns for Tua are fair and it most likely will have an effect on his draft status.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The injury concerns for Tua are fair and it most likely will have an effect on his draft status.

You think? I kinda feel like a dislocated hip is so rare and more of a one off vs guice with bad knees/cartilage or chris samuels with the stenosis or reed w concussions etc.

I dont think Tua will ever dislocate a hip ever again but im just guessing and im no dr.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

You think? I kinda feel like a dislocated hip is so rare and more of a one off vs guice with bad knees/cartilage or chris samuels with the stenosis or reed w concussions etc.

I dont think Tua will ever dislocate a hip ever again but im just guessing and im no dr.

You are definitely not. This is the injury that ended Bo Jackson's career - Bo's hip was dislocated and the fracture was not as evident as he walked off the field, but he had one. Tua couldn't even stand.

Orthopaedic medicine and surgery has changed a lot since, but it's not a done deal that Tua will ever be the same physically. The hip socket and pelvic floor are areas of the body that don't get a lot of blood flow, so the ability to heal very much depends on the body's ability to get blood into the area. Bo experienced tissue necrosis in that part of his body - meaning spots of cells in the affected area actually died - because blood flow to the area was poor.

Some people are built differently. Tua may be lucky enough to have venous structures that get more blood to the area than Bo did. And Orthopaedic science has progressed, so they may be able to do some things to encourage that blood flow and healing process.

But his draft stock should very, very much be viewed as completely up in the air. He could recover fully and go on to play with no pain or lingering side effects. Or he could need to retire like Bo Jackson.

If I had the 2nd pick and Tua was on the board, there's NO WAY I'm taking him. Even if we didn't have Haskins. It's Joe Burrow or BPA at that spot. Tua's out of consideration.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Two questions. Would you agree or disagree that we are in a similar situation as the Cardinals were last year? Second, has Murray helped the Cardinals become a competitive team? I would say yes to both and that is why it makes sense.

Burrow and Tua (more so Tua w/ me) I feel are two guys that could come in and make a team like ours competitive. Right now we are not competitive. But like I said, I'm hoping that Haskins is that guy, but he just has a real long way to go and may never be that guy.

Having a new head coach/offensive staff is also a major factor in the cardinals improvement

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Having a new head coach/offensive staff is also a major factor in the cardinals improvement

A coach that actually schemes up a legit offense... Not one that says "run the ball 70%"