Who would make your 2006 Redskins team?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by wewhite3

I've done hard research on this, so bare with me, this could be our 2006 Roster:

Brunell, Portis, Cooley, Moss, Samuels, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, we need a LG, 2nd WR, TE, lets address the LG we can go with Diehl. or Hutchinson who both have 1yr left on there contract, For Wr, plenty of options but, here are my Choices, T.O., that right can't deny his talent and at this point he has only one chance left, next Reggie Wayne, Colts might not be able to sign him, next I. Bruce, solid and has experience...Jimmy Smith would be perfect or Charles Rogers, who the Lions will cut, or Brandon Lloyd, next TE Randy McMichael or Todd Heap, not sure if he's got a extention yet or Boo Williams from New Orleans, who wants to play there anyway, now let's do the Defense:

Griffen, Washington, Arrington, Salave'a, Springs, Rogers, Taylor, for a LE, Raheem Brock, Aaron Smith, Gary Walker, for RE John Abraham, Aaron Schobel, Greg Ellis, Mike Rucker from Carolina, or Best of all Robert Mathis, from Ind. next a MLB Ray Lewis, because the Ravens will let him walk, Andra Davis, Earl Holmes, Gary Brackett. at SS and this is the most important one....Lawyer Milloy, Adam Archuleta, Corey Chavous, Tank Williams, Donovin Darius, not sure if he got that contract extention, but I know he has been getting the Franchise Tag. and I'm sure we get all of these guys but that what will be available, I'll say the 4 most important people on here that would put us over the top.....Heap from the Ravens....Hutchinson from Sea...John Abraham and Robert Mathis, all of these guys to my knowledge is in a contract year, we could do without Heap, take Jimmy Smith, move Cooley over to TE full time, and use Sellers as a FB,

Our New Additions or:
Jimmy Smith-WR
Rober Mathis-RE
John Abraham-LE
Steve Hutchinson-LG,

keep the Core guys along with what we got.....Playoffs, no doubt

Pretty interesting and informative post. Wow! Hutchinson is going to be a free agent? If we can afford him and the Hawks don't re-sign him (which is unlikely), we should do everything we can to get him. Randy "the wife-beater" McMichael fails Gibbs' character test with flying colors.

Heap and Darius did sign extensions.

I'd like to see just a new #2 wideout, a TE, and a DE and that's about it; everything else is a luxury we probably can't afford.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I agree with most of the picks. But Randy Thomas? He's our best offensive linemen and one of our best players! Arrington gone? How to we afford to take the gigantic cap hit? If you can explain that one, you should be on TV like David Blaine or David Copperfield. Finally, Curtis Martin? Really? Isn't he as old as dirt? Martin is a great back, but he's got at most one or two really good seasons left.

I'll tell you why Curtis Martin. It's part of our new trend. The annual "Pick a Jet" campaign. We need to bring some former Jet to the Skins.

On another note. Let me throw this name out there. Financially I don't know if it works but there is a big, young back out there who will probably be a free agent this offseason....Jamal Lewis.

What do you guys think of going after him and doing a Portis-Jamal thing sort of like what the Panthers have with Deshaun and Stephen Davis? My guess is it probably wouldn't work from a salary cap standpoint

[Big C]

Originally Posted by wewhite3

I've done hard research on this, so bare with me, this could be our 2006 Roster:

Brunell, Portis, Cooley, Moss, Samuels, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, we need a LG, 2nd WR, TE, lets address the LG we can go with Diehl. or Hutchinson who both have 1yr left on there contract, For Wr, plenty of options but, here are my Choices, T.O., that right can't deny his talent and at this point he has only one chance left, next Reggie Wayne, Colts might not be able to sign him, next I. Bruce, solid and has experience...Jimmy Smith would be perfect or Charles Rogers, who the Lions will cut, or Brandon Lloyd, next TE Randy McMichael or Todd Heap, not sure if he's got a extention yet or Boo Williams from New Orleans, who wants to play there anyway, now let's do the Defense:

Griffen, Washington, Arrington, Salave'a, Springs, Rogers, Taylor, for a LE, Raheem Brock, Aaron Smith, Gary Walker, for RE John Abraham, Aaron Schobel, Greg Ellis, Mike Rucker from Carolina, or Best of all Robert Mathis, from Ind. next a MLB Ray Lewis, because the Ravens will let him walk, Andra Davis, Earl Holmes, Gary Brackett. at SS and this is the most important one....Lawyer Milloy, Adam Archuleta, Corey Chavous, Tank Williams, Donovin Darius, not sure if he got that contract extention, but I know he has been getting the Franchise Tag. and I'm sure we get all of these guys but that what will be available, I'll say the 4 most important people on here that would put us over the top.....Heap from the Ravens....Hutchinson from Sea...John Abraham and Robert Mathis, all of these guys to my knowledge is in a contract year, we could do without Heap, take Jimmy Smith, move Cooley over to TE full time, and use Sellers as a FB,

Our New Additions or:
Jimmy Smith-WR
Rober Mathis-RE
John Abraham-LE
Steve Hutchinson-LG,

keep the Core guys along with what we got.....Playoffs, no doubt

dont think we would move cooley to TE, why mess with a good thing when hes been awesome at H back?

hutchinson would be great. mathis isnt a full time player though, only a situational pass rusher. jimmy smith would be alright, but he doesnt have too much left. if we got ray lewis that would be amazing, he would make this defense so nasty just with his personality and charisma.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'll tell you why Curtis Martin. It's part of our new trend. The annual "Pick a Jet" campaign. We need to bring some former Jet to the Skins.

On another note. Let me throw this name out there. Financially I don't know if it works but there is a big, young back out there who will probably be a free agent this offseason....Jamal Lewis.

What do you guys think of going after him and doing a Portis-Jamal thing sort of like what the Panthers have with Deshaun and Stephen Davis? My guess is it probably wouldn't work from a salary cap standpoint

would be interesting, but yes it wouldnt work with the cap and i dont think lewis is a "character guy" that gibbs would want

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by wewhite3

I've done hard research on this, so bare with me, this could be our 2006 Roster:

Brunell, Portis, Cooley, Moss, Samuels, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, we need a LG, 2nd WR, TE, lets address the LG we can go with Diehl. or Hutchinson who both have 1yr left on there contract, For Wr, plenty of options but, here are my Choices, T.O., that right can't deny his talent and at this point he has only one chance left, next Reggie Wayne, Colts might not be able to sign him, next I. Bruce, solid and has experience...Jimmy Smith would be perfect or Charles Rogers, who the Lions will cut, or Brandon Lloyd, next TE Randy McMichael or Todd Heap, not sure if he's got a extention yet or Boo Williams from New Orleans, who wants to play there anyway, now let's do the Defense:

Griffen, Washington, Arrington, Salave'a, Springs, Rogers, Taylor, for a LE, Raheem Brock, Aaron Smith, Gary Walker, for RE John Abraham, Aaron Schobel, Greg Ellis, Mike Rucker from Carolina, or Best of all Robert Mathis, from Ind. next a MLB Ray Lewis, because the Ravens will let him walk, Andra Davis, Earl Holmes, Gary Brackett. at SS and this is the most important one....Lawyer Milloy, Adam Archuleta, Corey Chavous, Tank Williams, Donovin Darius, not sure if he got that contract extention, but I know he has been getting the Franchise Tag. and I'm sure we get all of these guys but that what will be available, I'll say the 4 most important people on here that would put us over the top.....Heap from the Ravens....Hutchinson from Sea...John Abraham and Robert Mathis, all of these guys to my knowledge is in a contract year, we could do without Heap, take Jimmy Smith, move Cooley over to TE full time, and use Sellers as a FB,

Our New Additions or:
Jimmy Smith-WR
Rober Mathis-RE
John Abraham-LE
Steve Hutchinson-LG,

keep the Core guys along with what we got.....Playoffs, no doubt

I love Jimmy Smith. I think he's one of the most underrated receivers of all time. However, I think his best years are behind him and I wouldn't go after him

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'll tell you why Curtis Martin. It's part of our new trend. The annual "Pick a Jet" campaign. We need to bring some former Jet to the Skins.

On another note. Let me throw this name out there. Financially I don't know if it works but there is a big, young back out there who will probably be a free agent this offseason....Jamal Lewis.

What do you guys think of going after him and doing a Portis-Jamal thing sort of like what the Panthers have with Deshaun and Stephen Davis? My guess is it probably wouldn't work from a salary cap standpoint

Interesting, but I can't imagine under any circumstances having both Portis and Lewis. That would consume too much of our cap, both would be griping about carries, and Lewis fails the Gibbs' character test.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I understand the enthusiasm about getting new and more talented players. We've lost year after year after year. Danny & Co. have tried year after year after year to dig their way out of their losing ways by mining free agency for high-caliber quick-fixes. I learned a long time ago that when you are in a hole the first thing you need to do is stop digging. That is exactly what we need to do - take stock and climb out with basically what we've got (save 1 or 2 pickups).

[ST21]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I understand the enthusiasm about getting new and more talented players. We've lost year after year after year. Danny & Co. have tried year after year after year to dig their way out of their losing ways by mining free agency for high-caliber quick-fixes. I learned a long time ago that when you are in a hole the first thing you need to do is stop digging. That is exactly what we need to do - take stock and climb out with basically what we've got (save 1 or 2 pickups).

Good Point, no doubt thats a good point, but since, we want have many draft picks, since denver will be gettin our future, then free agency, is the only way to stop the bleeding....I really think, Hutchinson and Smith, with Abraham, would gives us that feared D again.....and If the Ravens Drop Ray Lewis, well, I dont see him wanting to move far away from MD......I feel this could gives us what we need, even though I do like Brandon LLoyd and Mathis from Ind. he's a speed demon

[dmek25]

first of all,leave the o line alone!it takes a couple of seasons together to make it right.no our line isnt great,but just playing together and knowing where everyone should be,will vastly improve next year.you guys talk about dumping all these players,where do you dig up new ones?for the most part,the guys you are talking about are about to be cast off their old teams for one reason or another.who wants some other teams trash?with a couple of minor personnal moves the skins will make the playoffs in 2006.have faith,coach gibbs has us heading in the right direction

[ST21]

Originally Posted by dmek25

first of all,leave the o line alone!it takes a couple of seasons together to make it right.no our line isnt great,but just playing together and knowing where everyone should be,will vastly improve next year.you guys talk about dumping all these players,where do you dig up new ones?for the most part,the guys you are talking about are about to be cast off their old teams for one reason or another.who wants some other teams trash?with a couple of minor personnal moves the skins will make the playoffs in 2006.have faith,coach gibbs has us heading in the right direction

Its easier for a O-line to gel than any other line, and this is the easiest place you can add talent without messing up to much chemistry, Trash do you mean like Muhammad going to Chicago, or Carlonia getting Delhomme, a few years ago, or the Patriots getting the Bengals Trash in Corey Dillion, what about Tampa getting Denvers trash in Brian Griese before he got hurt, all I know is that it takes talent along with comrotery, to make a team gel

[That Guy]

the oline is not easy to gel, it takes time to learn the protections and who's picking up who on every kind of blitz possible. ray lewis will never play here, he wants too much money and MLB isn't a need like DL, WR, and CB are. griese made it 17 games, corey lasted 19 and went worthless. muhammad is a great receiver, but he's 31 and there's no way he's worth nearly as much as he got paid. Lloyd isn't really an upgrade over patten either.

I think reggie wayne is a FA this year, that'd be a good WR to target if they let him go (though expensive ) ... and this offseason is going to see at least a chance at some great Dlinemen coming free (DF probably gets tagged, but that' a guy you'd give a left nut to have).

[dmek25]

i think getting a wr in the draft is a viable option,one of the easier positions to step in and make an impact.if we are close to being a good team as we think we are,than we have to go after serious help on the d line.a good run stopper,and a stud pass rusher.i would keep c griffith and j salaveea(i think could be a good run stopper in a d line rotation)leave the o line alone for one more year to gel,and they dont upgrade their play,then tinker with it.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I'm not sure I'd go after Wayne. Wayne looks like a great wideout in Indy, but I think Manning could make Cliff Russell look like Terrell Owens.

[mooby]

I'd rather go after Brandon Lloyd than Reggie Wayne, for the reason Ramseyfan listed above. Take into account that Brandon Lloyd hasn't struggled with qbs that aren't household names. Indy can't keep Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, or Edgerrin James all at once. My money says they give a long term contract to either DF or Edge, and whoever doesn't get it long term gets the tag. Reggie Wayne will be gone. Also, what about Kyle Vanden Bosch? he signed a one year deal with Tennessee and so far has 10.5 sacks. He might be a one year wonder, I don't know, but if DF isn't available, i say we look at him. Our most pressing needs are at #2 wideout, DE, and tight end.

[backrow]

No one should be assured of a spot on the 2006 team at this time.

The certified gonners are W. Harris, Ade Jimoh, R. Royal, and Frost.