Fresh Start Political Thread

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.

We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

Republicans should just be called redcoats. Which is ironic because their most hardcore members pose as a militia. It’s like they are trying to overthrow themselves…..

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

We all get our values from somewhere and are guided by those values. You are basically saying that anyone that gets their values from something you don't approve of, shouldn't have a say in decisions. You can't be a Christian and make decisions that aren't in line with your values (unless you're a phony Iike Pelosi, Biden, etc.). You are stating that they have to, so basically they shouldn't be in politics.

In addition, I'm not against abortion solely because I'm a Christian, which certainly plays a part in it. I'm against it because I believe life begins at inception, and I'm against murder.

Why you think being an atheist gives your values a higher meaning than anyone elses is beyond me.

Your atheism is no less of a religion than my Christianity. Hopefully you find Jesus one day. I'll say a prayer for you today.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Your atheism is no less of a religion than my Christianity. Hopefully you find Jesus one day. I'll say a prayer for you today.

There are 33 millions "gods"in Hinduism? Do you also believe in them? Do you believe in Islam? Moromism and the goal plates?

No?

Fact is the difference btw me and you is that I dont believe in 1 more god than you. Just 1 more. (This is from a comedian). But this isnt about the validity of religion or ones right to practice their religion. No matter how hard you try and steer the conversation towards some false equivalency "freedom of religion". This is about freedom from religion.

No one is saying you cant be christian or go to church. But you know that.

I think you can understand the importance of separation from church and state, importance of justices to apply US law and not the bible. You just choose not to. You talk in bad faith.

You play obtuse on here sometimes and it makes talking with you pointless.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

There are 33 millions "gods"in Hinduism? Do you also believe in them? Do you believe in Islam? Moromism and the goal plates?

No?

Fact is the difference btw me and you is that I dont believe in 1 more god than you. Just 1 more. (This is from a comedian). But this isnt about the validity of religion or ones right to practice their religion. No matter how hard you try and steer the conversation towards some false equivalency "freedom of religion". This is about freedom from religion.

No one is saying you cant be christian or go to church. But you know that.

I think you can understand the importance of separation from church and state, importance of justices to apply US law and not the bible. You just choose not to. You talk in bad faith.

You play obtuse on here sometimes and it makes talking with you pointless.

All of those religions are no less of a religion than Christianity either. I don't get your point. I don't care what people choose to believe. And I'd bet they get most of their values and morals from their beliefs too. My point was that if you believe in 0 gods or 1 million gods, those are no less of a religion than any other belief system.

There is nothing in the constitution that says freedom from religion or separation of church and state. But I think you know that and are just being obtuse.

Your basic argument, and we know you only attack Christianity, is that if you believe in God, your values are irrelevant and shouldn't be allowed in making decisions. Call me whatever you want, this is your argument.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

There are 33 millions "gods"in Hinduism? Do you also believe in them? Do you believe in Islam? Moromism and the goal plates?

No?

Fact is the difference btw me and you is that I dont believe in 1 more god than you. Just 1 more. (This is from a comedian). But this isnt about the validity of religion or ones right to practice their religion. No matter how hard you try and steer the conversation towards some false equivalency "freedom of religion". This is about freedom from religion.

No one is saying you cant be christian or go to church. But you know that.

I think you can understand the importance of separation from church and state, importance of justices to apply US law and not the bible. You just choose not to. You talk in bad faith.

You play obtuse on here sometimes and it makes talking with you pointless.

...........he ain't playing.