Ukraine mega thread

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think that's a lot of faith in Western Europe and DC. I generally think a red line should be invading a sovereign country without an obvious compelling case. I hesitate writing this because the US has pushed those boundaries - particularly in the middle east. BUT I think that is the standard that should be applied in all cases.

All in all, I hope that the UN/NATO political wings have the will to enforce whatever redline they have agreed on.

I think your view is just a little on the utopian side, perhaps even naive, that's all. I think the US and NATO is morally outraged enough to want to take action, but they're confronted by the reality that they'll have to give tens of thousands of lives to do so. So they're making a pragmatic choice to let Ukraine continue to make the sacrifices, until there's no other choice.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think your view is just a little on the utopian side, perhaps even naive, that's all. I think the US and NATO is morally outraged enough to want to take action, but they're confronted by the reality that they'll have to give tens of thousands of lives to do so. So they're making a pragmatic choice to let Ukraine continue to make the sacrifices, until there's no other choice.

I agree with this and IMO it would be "millions" of lives.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree with this and IMO it would be "millions" of lives.

Meh. The nuclear threat be like

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Meh. The nuclear threat be like

I think this is also called arguing on the internet vs in person