Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Agreed but i dont think you get the same look from the Giants w BRob in there.

I tried finding this play on teh internet, watched the long highlights and this play cant find it save my dvr on my cable box

We had 5 OL on 4 DL .. giants in a dime or buffalo nickel w collins

One thing I do wonder, watching teh play, is how this huge hole opened but it was right were Collins and another D guy were plugging

I wonder if the Giants "gave" us that hole

idk

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Going spread and having the D mirror your personnel is a win

using samuel in these roles to get the D to go dime/play pass is a win

just bad luck and a yard short

Going into this season Logan Paulsen and Hoffman talked about how they could get mismatches using Samuel in back field, getting to run on pass defenses etc

We complain Turner doesnt use our playmakers

then complain when he uses our playmakers .. and I get it. running Samuel up gut isnt what we are talking about or have in mind

This playcall worked on paper and pre snap

Yeah, you probably don't get the same look, and it also probably doesn't matter. No way to know for sure.

I do think Turner is trying to get our playmakers involved, and with the limitations at QB he probably feels like he has to do things like he did on this play. But Curtis Samuel is not Deebo Samuel, and he has no business getting the ball on a run up the middle on 3rd and 3 (or whatever it was). Sometimes I get the feeling that ST just gets way too creative, when something straight forward that has been working - would work. It's a big contributor to our Red Zone issues too in my opinion. I'm not against creativity of course, but there is such a thing as being "too cute" with the play calling. When we need 1-3 yards, give the ball to BRob. He will get the first down probably 7-8 out of 10 times.