Trump 2.0 Administration Golden Years

[MTK]

Federal employees under attack, fun times to be a civil servant right now

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits...curity/402495/

[NC_Skins]

I was teasing Chico earlier, but I do want to ask him a serious question though about deportations.

Chico, what is the total number of deportations you think is done by the end of his term?




My personal view is, if you here illegally, then your ass needs to be sent to the crib. So deport all the illegals you want, it's really no issue with me. That said, I also know what happens (economically) when you do such a thing too. My biggest issue is the system itself is the process for documentation and citizenship is a clusterfuck.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I was teasing Chico earlier, but I do want to ask him a serious question though about deportations.

Chico, what is the total number of deportations you think is done by the end of his term?




My personal view is, if you here illegally, then your ass needs to be sent to the crib. So deport all the illegals you want, it's really no issue with me. That said, I also know what happens (economically) when you do such a thing too. My biggest issue is the system itself is the process for documentation and citizenship is a clusterfuck.

It’s not the really the numbers because politically whatever amount he sends back to their shitholes, liberals will say it’s not enough or he didn’t do what he said. But ice is now back on the job, the southern border is back up and running with policies back which Trump previously saw the lowest numbers in 35 years his first term.

Things will improve as they did previously on illegal immigration under Trump.

Look, you can already see city/state budgets such as all of California, Denver, Chicago, New York City and Fairfax County Va suffering from the millions they spent previous years on housing, education, medical, etc. from taking care of illegals. Don’t expect the federal government to bail them out.

Those citizens will suffer, many in minority communities from services cut and higher taxes….like always. So they can enjoy what they voted for.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

It’s not the really the numbers because politically whatever amount he sends back to their shitholes, liberals will say it’s not enough or he didn’t do what he said.

Why would liberals care about deportation numbers not being enough? I thought they wanted open borders so the less numbers the better right?

But ice is now back on the job, the southern border is back up and running with policies back which Trump previously saw the lowest numbers in 35 years his first term.

Things will improve as they did previously on illegal immigration under Trump.

But ICE has always been back on the job. Biden deported more people in his 4 years than Trump did in his first four. That couldn't be possible unless ICE was doing its job. Right? Now if you want to say Trump was better on the border than Biden, then sure, that's a fair statement and probably an accurate one (despite the deportation numbers).

Also, that lowest numbers in 35 years you speak of? You know what that's from right? It's from a hawkish 8 years of Obama on immigration. You do realize that Obama has deported more people from America than ANY other President in history. So much in fact, he garnered the nickname of Deporter in Chief. In fact, Trump's border czar once worked under Obama.

A good read.
https://www.cato.org/publications/co...y-immigration#

Look, you can already see city/state budgets such as all of California, Denver, Chicago, New York City and Fairfax County Va suffering from the millions they spent previous years on housing, education, medical, etc. from taking care of illegals. Don’t expect the federal government to bail them out.

Those citizens will suffer, many in minority communities from services cut and higher taxes….like always. So they can enjoy what they voted for.

You are right about this aspect. Even in Chicago, residents pushed back against the Mayor on this very subject.

https://apnews.com/article/chicago-m...b350665b9e66f6

[NC_Skins]

That said, the shit we're seeing today from the administration on immigration isn't serious. It's theatrics. They have Kristi Noem out there cosplaying as a ICE agent like she's going to be kicking doors in. I mean they telling these forces to "dress for the cameras". It's all a smoke and mirrors act to make it look like he's doing something. ICE raids with Dr. Phil? That isn't serious man.


https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-...y-cnn-sources/

https://x.com/Sec_Noem/status/1884264039158800547

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

Federal employees under attack, fun times to be a civil servant right now

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits...curity/402495/

1)So how much in "severance and unemployment payments" will they payout?

2) Who is going to do the work these hundreds of thousand employees are doing now?

3) Anyone else see the irony in creating a department of goverment to stop big goverment?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

1)So how much in "severance and unemployment payments" will they payout?

2) Who is going to do the work these hundreds of thousand employees are doing now?

3) Anyone else see the irony in creating a department of goverment to stop big goverment?

When living in Fairfax county and Alexandria…all my friends constantly tried to get on with the Federal government because they said it was the gravy train, lax jobs.

Why shouldn’t tax payers expect more? The plan on jobs freezes and return to office will cause attrition, but that’s not really strategy I believe.

It’s going to be AI focused, federal contractors focused, audit/lean and money spent on NGO which have become extensions of federal employees working for liberal causes without oversight. Hopefully Trump focuses there.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

When living in Fairfax county and Alexandria…all my friends constantly tried to get on with the Federal government because they said it was the gravy train, lax jobs.

Why shouldn’t tax payers expect more? The plan on jobs freezes and return to office will cause attrition, but that’s not really strategy I believe.

It’s going to be AI focused, federal contractors focused, audit/lean and money spent on NGO which have become extensions of federal employees working for liberal causes without oversight. Hopefully Trump focuses there.

You didn't answer one question, not one.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You didn't answer one question, not one.

If you read between the lines, my point was very few employees will lose their jobs when it comes to percentages of the federal workforce. The focus I will believe will be the things the administration can control, contracts, ngo spending, AI implementation, etc.

We fire folks who don’t return to office, that’s a business decision the employee makes. No packages needed.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If you read between the lines, my point was very few employees will lose their jobs when it comes to percentages of the federal workforce. The focus I will believe will be the things the administration can control, contracts, ngo spending, AI implementation, etc.

We fire folks who don’t return to office, that’s a business decision the employee makes. No packages needed.

As always you're wrong.

[Giantone]

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If you read between the lines, my point was very few employees will lose their jobs when it comes to percentages of the federal workforce. The focus I will believe will be the things the administration can control, contracts, ngo spending, AI implementation, etc.

We fire folks who don’t return to office, that’s a business decision the employee makes. No packages needed.

Problem is there are a lot of remote workers who never step foot in an office. They're in non public facing positions where going into an office just isn't necessary. Many of them don't even live near an office to go to.

There's plenty of nuance to remote work and telework that the new admin either doesn't understand or doesn't care about.