Any update on Campbell?

[bertoskins]

at first gibbs really did not like ramsey
he tell snyder to draft JC a gibbs duy so
defenitely gibbs will start playing him

as for brunnel he can be a good mentor to the kid
and he will groom him tremendously

[offiss]

Originally Posted by bertoskins

at first gibbs really did not like ramsey
he tell snyder to draft JC a gibbs duy so
defenitely gibbs will start playing him

as for brunnel he can be a good mentor to the kid
and he will groom him tremendously

I don't know about that, how much has his mentoring helped Ramsey? From what I hear from a lot of guy's on this board Ramsey still stink's, perhaps Brunell is not the guy to be tutoring other QB's, he obviously has failed with Ramsey.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

I don't know about that, how much has his mentoring helped Ramsey? From what I hear from a lot of guy's on this board Ramsey still stink's, perhaps Brunell is not the guy to be tutoring other QB's, he obviously has failed with Ramsey.

Apparently it helped! Even Ramsey himself said that watching Brunell this year taught him [Ramsey] alot about checking down and knowing when to scramble and when not to. We saw a bit of that when Ramsey came in against the Giants.

Now, are you going to argue with Ramsey?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Apparently it helped! Even Ramsey himself said that watching Brunell this year taught him [Ramsey] alot about checking down and knowing when to scramble and when not to. We saw a bit of that when Ramsey came in against the Giants.

Now, are you going to argue with Ramsey?

Pay attention, I already posted that statement, and just for the record Ramsey also said he would see things happen out there that he knew, but seeing Brunell do it hepled to confirm it in his own mind, not exactly the ringing endorsement that he couldn't have gotten it right on his own.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

Pay attention, I already posted that statement, and just for the record Ramsey also said he would see things happen out there that he knew, but seeing Brunell do it hepled to confirm it in his own mind, not exactly the ringing endorsement that he couldn't have gotten it right on his own.

Nobody ever argued that Patrick Ramsey didn't know, at least in theory, what to do in certain situations. However, what I have been saying all along is watching a veteran quarterback leading the team can only benefit the younger quarterbacks. They learn AND confirm by seeing it in live situations on the field. They are there on the sidelines listening to the terminology and the coaching aspect of things, and getting the benefit of seeing it executed on the field. That is why I have been saying all along that because of the decision to let Brunell play this year, it has benefited BOTH Patrick Ramsey and Jason Campbell. It will help to make either quarterback a smarter and better quarterback rather than to throw them on the field and tell them to figure it out. Some guys can thrive like that, others need to be brought up slowly. This is a good decision by Joe Gibbs and it's one that I support fully. I also believe because of this decision, we were able to have a 10 game winning season and make the playoffs. Not many people expected this out of the Redskins this year, and every player, INCLUDING Mark Brunell, deserves credit. IF Patrick Ramsey was the guy this year, and he lead us to the same type of year OR better, then I would have given Ramsey just as much credit.

[Redskins8588]

Just my thoughts, but I do think that Ramsey did change for the better by watching a healthy Brunell play this year. What makes me think that is when Ramsey had to play in the second NYG game, due to Brunell going down. There was one play where Ramsey dumped the ball off to Betts just out of the backfield. He went through his progressions, and finally dumped off to Betts, the thing is not that he went through his progressions and checked down to Betts but how he threw the pass. The old Ramsey would have "bulleted" the ball to Betts, who was about 4 or 5 yards away, the Ramsey I saw on that play lofted the ball over a defenders head to Betts, Ramsey put the much so coveted "touch" on that pass... Again, just my thoughts...

Too bad that we couldnt see more of Ramsey to really tell if he had learned anything or not...

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Just my thoughts, but I do think that Ramsey did change for the better by watching a healthy Brunell play this year. What makes me think that is when Ramsey had to play in the second NYG game, due to Brunell going down. There was one play where Ramsey dumped the ball off to Betts just out of the backfield. He went through his progressions, and finally dumped off to Betts, the thing is not that he went through his progressions and checked down to Betts but how he threw the pass. The old Ramsey would have "bulleted" the ball to Betts, who was about 4 or 5 yards away, the Ramsey I saw on that play lofted the ball over a defenders head to Betts, Ramsey put the much so coveted "touch" on that pass... Again, just my thoughts...

Too bad that we couldnt see more of Ramsey to really tell if he had learned anything or not...

Nice Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Just my thoughts, but I do think that Ramsey did change for the better by watching a healthy Brunell play this year. What makes me think that is when Ramsey had to play in the second NYG game, due to Brunell going down. There was one play where Ramsey dumped the ball off to Betts just out of the backfield. He went through his progressions, and finally dumped off to Betts, the thing is not that he went through his progressions and checked down to Betts but how he threw the pass. The old Ramsey would have "bulleted" the ball to Betts, who was about 4 or 5 yards away, the Ramsey I saw on that play lofted the ball over a defenders head to Betts, Ramsey put the much so coveted "touch" on that pass... Again, just my thoughts...

Too bad that we couldnt see more of Ramsey to really tell if he had learned anything or not...

Yea, he admitted as much, it did seem like he was putting touch on those passes in the giant game.

I also agree that it would have been nice to see him get a little more playing time.

[That Guy]

a TD is a TD, who cares how you get it? unless you're going to breakout a complete drive play by play for every possession of the entire season, TD reception length is a pretty useless stat. Maybe someone should e-mail daly and ask how the hell he thinks its relevant to anything at all.

[Luxorreb]

You see the footage of Campbell on redskins.com? He looks incredible. But I did notice he telegraphed both of those passes. Even Brunell telegraphs to much. Maybe they haven't played the cone version of madden yet. Alot harder to connect on a fly anymore...

[firstdown]

Don't you have to get the ball to the eight yard line to have an eight yard pass?

[That Guy]

since this who's coming back thread warped into ramsey v brunell again... anyone else anxiouss to see JC in the preseason? he looked really good last year besides the rookie telegraphing and who knows what a year will do...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by That Guy

since this who's coming back thread warped into ramsey v brunell again... anyone else anxiouss to see JC in the preseason? he looked really good last year besides the rookie telegraphing and who knows what a year will do...

I am. It's always exciting to see the unknown.