Gas in the tank: Brunell (sponsored by big oil)

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by MightyJoeGibbs

last year he was phenomenal , every pass was amazing. On 3rd down, he got it done.

This has got to be a joke...

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

This has got to be a joke...

Not really no. For at least most of the season, Mark Brunell had played quite well. He was clutch in 3rd down situations. Maybe if you have access to every game of this past season, you'll find that Brunell played pretty well up until the point where he had gotten injured.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Not really no. For at least most of the season, Mark Brunell had played quite well. He was clutch in 3rd down situations. Maybe if you have access to every game of this past season, you'll find that Brunell played pretty well up until the point where he had gotten injured.

and the point where both patten and thrash were out and guys like jimmy farris were lining up opposite moss

My feeling is there is enough support both talentwise and depthwise around him and he's got enough left in the tank, but it never hurts to have the young backup ready to go. I doubt we'll see much of Brunell at all this summer.

[Master4Caster]

At age 35, Mark Brunell is one year younger than John Elway was when he won his first Super Bowl.

Just a thought.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Master4Caster

At age 35, Mark Brunell is one year younger than John Elway was when he won his first Super Bowl.

Just a thought.

And he's younger than Rich Gannon when he got the Raiders to the bowl

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Not really no. For at least most of the season, Mark Brunell had played quite well. He was clutch in 3rd down situations.

Sorry, but I don't consider 50% completion percentage and 76.9 QB rating on third down's last year "phenomenal". By comparison, Drew Bledsoe and Michael Vick had better third down numbers than Mark Brunell last year.

And the exact comment I was calling a joke was the remark that "Every pass was amazing".

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Sorry, but I don't consider 50% completion percentage and 76.9 QB rating on third down's last year "phenomenal". By comparison, Drew Bledsoe and Michael Vick had better third down numbers than Mark Brunell last year.

And the exact comment I was calling a joke was the remark that "Every pass was amazing".

This biggest thing you're ignoring is the fact that we made the playoffs, and neither the two quarterbacks you mentioned did. So, considering the argument of stats vs. playoff appearances, I'd take playoff appearances anyday of the week.

It's a joke to assume any quarterback in the league is going to throw a pretty pass on every attempt.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

This biggest thing you're ignoring is the fact that we made the playoffs, and neither the two quarterbacks you mentioned did. So, considering the argument of stats vs. playoff appearances, I'd take playoff appearances anyday of the week.

I'm not ingnoring the fact that Brunell performed adequately enough for the Redskins to make the playoffs last season. What I'm disputing is everyone talking about him like he's a world beater. Yes, he kept the F-ups to a minimum, but when it was time to put up or shut up(ie. 3rd down), he got the job done only half of the time. I do think he'll be able to improve on 3rd downs this season, if he's able to remain upright, but that's a big if.

And if any part of this team deserves props for making the playoffs, it's the defense which was on fire for the late season run, and actually put points onto the board, while Brunell and the offense limped into the playoffs.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

This biggest thing you're ignoring is the fact that we made the playoffs, and neither the two quarterbacks you mentioned did. So, considering the argument of stats vs. playoff appearances, I'd take playoff appearances anyday of the week.

It's a joke to assume any quarterback in the league is going to throw a pretty pass on every attempt.

That is a good point. However, a lot of the people on this board were angry because Brunell didn't make the Pro Bowl and Vick did. A lot of people were arguing that Bledsoe or Brunell should have gone in ahead of Vick. So, Brunell was naturally being compared to those two. I can see why the comparison was made.

I, however, have made it clear that I think this team could be in trouble with Brunell at the helm. I think his time is really running out and I do think the offense is better, I just don't think he'll be considerably better than last season which may not be good enough to make the playoffs this year.