Troy Vincent available soon....why not?

[paulskinsfan]

Reports are that Troy Vincent will be healthy soon. We need a decent safety, considering the injury to Prioleau and the fact that Archuletta gets burnt like a dime bag a at a Dead Show. I think we should get him if we have the cap space, maybe cut Hall and sign an average kicker which would be an upgrade, to free up some room. I even liked the Cowboys backup kicker better than Hall, he missed a field goal but at least his kickoffs all went deep into the endzone.

[MTK]

Huh?

The Bills put him on IR

AllSports' NFL News - Bills place S Vincent on IR

[paulskinsfan]

ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet

LEVY SCREWED THE POOCH ON VINCENT

We've gotten some more information regarding the manner in which Bills safety Troy Vincent landed on IR. And the manner in which the situation was handled by the team convinces us that G.M. Marv Levy has little or no skill when it comes to the complexities of managing an NFL roster.

For starters, it turns out that there really is a "minor" Injured Reserve. It's a procedure used in lieu of an injury settlement, pursuant to which the player is added to IR but must be released when healthy.

When a player is on "major" IR, he's done for the year and gets paid his normal salary.

But in Vincent's case, the end result is the same -- the Bills will owe him his entire salary for 2006. Why? Because Vincent is a vested veteran entitled to take the balance of his $2.6 million salary as termination pay.

And once he's healthy, Vincent can sign with another team and receive wages on top of the $2.6 million base salary he'll get from the Bills.

In hindsight (or if Levy had applied any foresight), the Bills would have released Vincent prior to the start of the regular season. He then could have been re-signed after the first game, and his full salary would not have been guaranteed.

So while Levy might have been a very good coach, running the team is a much different endeavor. In this specific case, Levy's failure to understand the rules has forced his boss to pay $2.6 million to a guy who was available for only one game.

Meanwhile, we're hearing that the injury really isn't very significant, and that Vincent could be healthy soon. So when he's healthy (and then released), Vincent will be able to sign with any other team in the league.

Technically, Vincent would have to clear waivers if he's released after the trading deadline. But it's unlikely that anyone else would claim his contract when he can be signed the next day for a lower contract.

So look for Vincent to be playing for another team at some point this year, even though he'll be receiving the bulk of his compensation from the Buffalo Bills.

[MTK]

$2.6M base salary sounds a little steep to me.

[vaoutlaws2006]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

$2.6M base salary sounds a little steep to me.

just a little? another over priced player thats all we need. we need to stay far far away from vincent

[paulskinsfan]

That would be if we claimed him off waivers, but I bet we could get him cheaper.

[MTK]

We have about $3M of available room right now. I doubt we would want to use most of it on an over the hill and injured player.

[vaoutlaws2006]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We have about $3M of available room right now. I doubt we would want to use most of it on an over the hill and injured player.

i couldnt have said it better. We need to stay away from that. Lets hold onto that $3 million in cap room and use it when we really need it.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We have about $3M of available room right now. I doubt we would want to use most of it on an over the hill and injured player.

Yeah, like Mark Brunnell. Williams defense relies on safeties and corners, without them his defense fails. We have one safety that can cover people, one.

[724Skinsfan]

With Prioleau out, will we see more of Doughty?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Yeah, like Mark Brunnell. Williams defense relies on safeties and corners, without them his defense fails. We have one safety that can cover people, one.

What does Brunell have to do with this??

He's already on the roster and his salary is accounted for.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We have about $3M of available room right now. I doubt we would want to use most of it on an over the hill and injured player.

We sign oft injured players all the ime who are over the hill and you're always fine with it, why not try Vincent? Brunnell was oft injured and over the hill when we signed him, same for Barrow. I really don't think Vincent is such a reach here.

[RiggoRules]

What? We have $3 million in cap space. How did that make it this long without burning a hole in somebody's pocket?

[Big C]

sign him to a one year deal. we could get him vet minimum i bet, because he already gets 2.6 mil from bills, so in the end it would be him getting a yearly salary of over 3 mil even if he gets minimum wage

[paulskinsfan]

Yeah, I think you could get him for the vet min or slightly more.