Tim Hasselbeck needs to start for this team

[Winskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Did I see someone say TH is pro bowl talent?

I'm going to bed.

LOL...dang that's rough Matty, but I guess it has to be said. But hey, he had the coolness and the timing down... :headbange

[Shane]

Hasselbeck does need to show what he can do with the starting team, but with a better supporting cast I think he may play better. Time will tell. I do think his skills are excellent and with Gibbs and company there to teach him, he will only get better. He provides a spark. He is an exciting player, to me. You need your quarterback to be someone who will make things happen.

I'm a Hasselbeck believer right now. I like what I saw from him last year and I thought he was our best quarterback then, especially in light of the pass protection schemes and Ramsey's indecisiveness. We needed a scrambler then. We may need one this year as well.

Hasselbeck is someone you will see in the Pro Bowl at some point. Andy Reid thought very highly of him. Joe Gibbs is making comments.

I'm glad he is a Redskin.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by Shane

Hasselbeck does need to show what he can do with the starting team, but with a better supporting cast I think he may play better. Time will tell. I do think his skills are excellent and with Gibbs and company there to teach him, he will only get better. He provides a spark. He is an exciting player, to me. You need your quarterback to be someone who will make things happen.

I'm a Hasselbeck believer right now. I like what I saw from him last year and I thought he was our best quarterback then, especially in light of the pass protection schemes and Ramsey's indecisiveness. We needed a scrambler then. We may need one this year as well.

Hasselbeck is someone you will see in the Pro Bowl at some point. Andy Reid thought very highly of him. Joe Gibbs is making comments.

I'm glad he is a Redskin.

Did you see the Dallas game he started last year? With the first team, he completed more passes to Terrence Newman (who is not a Redskin by the way) than to anybody else. Horrific performance, and maybe he did bounce back and play decently later on, but in the biggest game of our year he flat out stunk.

And I agree with Matt, Wuerffel looked awesome in the preseason against the third stringers. But there's a reason he's #3 on the depth chart. He better make sure to stay ahead of Hamdan.

[BrunellFan]

Hasslebeck lit it up against 3rd stringers. Brunell was working against the first string.

I was concerned about how Brunell and Ramsey looked but I think they will improve as the preseason progresses. Remember, Denvers got a pretty damn good D, especially with Lynch and Bailey.

Aside from our run-D at times, I thought our D played pretty decently.

[Brute44]

First off as many have elaborated on already, this is the first preseason game. You better believe that Brunell and Ramsey will get much much better than what we saw tonight as the preseason runs it's course. They have too because there both fighting over the starting QB position. I believe that Brunell will win it out easily. The main purpose of the first couple of preseason games is to evaluate the rookies and second and third string players. Gibbs will make all the non believers see why he signed Brunell by week 3 in the preseason.

[Shane]

I'm a believer in Mark Brunell too, actually. I'm not sure that he is the best quarterback for this team right now. Time will tell.

Our offense hasn't looked good yet in training camp. It is still early, that is true. But it's not too early to look at who is providing the fire and spark right now.

I do think that Patrick Ramsey has too many things he needs to work out to develop himself into a top quarterback. His indecisiveness is a major problem. I think he worries about making mistakes, looking like he did against New Orleans in his second game.

My second concern with him is what John Madden observed - he doesn't look comfortable running this team. It's early, but is he going to suddenly find all this fire and spark and start being decisive before the end of preseason?

Time will tell.

Ramsey has a lot of talent - all three of our top quarterbacks do. I think that it will come down to Brunell and Hasselbeck, however, for this season. My money is on Tim to start before the end of the season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Winskins

LOL...dang that's rough Matty, but I guess it has to be said. But hey, he had the coolness and the timing down... :headbange

Yeah maybe a bit too rough, I apologize to Shane.

My point is TH was playing against 3rd stringers and guys who won't even make the Broncos team. So let's relax a little bit before we elevate TH to starter status and reserve a plane ticket for him to Hawaii.

TH is a solid backup, don't get me wrong I really like him. He came in last year and played very well under the circumstances. That being said the reality of it is he's an average QB with an average arm. He's a solid #2 or #3 guy.

I'll probably say it over and over this week, with the preseason you can't get too high or too low.

Brunell and Ramsey both struggled, but I honestly expected that. If you expected the offense to come out and light things up your expectation level was unreasonable.

But the Broncos looked good on offense you may say. Of course they did, Shanahan has been with that team for years now, it's an established and successful system and alot of their players know it inside and out. They also don't have the roster turnover we have. Gibbs and company have been in training camp for a week.

Relax folks and enjoy the ride. It's a long season.