Where is Ramsey?

[skinsfan69]

Ramsey is 3rd string in New York. He couldn't beat out noodle arm Pennington and a rookie. Enough said.

[EternalEnigma21]

I hope that Campbell has the gun Ramsey had, but a little mobility and I hope we don't ruin him by letting him get killed his first year in. I know PR held the ball too long, but Spurrier didn't exactly make pass protection a priority either...

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

i would take pennington over the lip noodle arm qb we have here. Pennington actually throws the ball over the line of scrimmage not like our mr shuffle or screen pass or dump off the rb brunell to keep his stat. Brunell stats come when the game is a blow out and the other team let him dump the ball off and can get a late td like the indy game, or get most of his yardage like he did in the dallas game after it was out of hand. Heaven forbid that Brunell ever step up in the damn pocket instead of backing up like he does every freaking time.

[EternalEnigma21]

brunell over pennington any day...

I cant say I even base that on pure skill or anything, but he's always been a whiney little turd. My wife went to school with him and he was a self-righteous punk. Anyone remember the interview he did a couple of years ago after he threw like 3 picks in a game? About how much of a privelege it was to cover the Jets and he just wouldn't shut the fuck up....

[70Chip]

Anne Ramsey, star of such film classics as "Throw Momma from the Train" and "The Goonies" passed away some years ago. I hope this answers your question.

[RobH4413]

Ramsey is a suburban city located in the northwestern part of anoka county, MN.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Yeah like I said I'm done discussing it. Can't believe I got suckered into this stupid Patrick Ramsey debate for the 500th time.

You have your opinions, I have mine. Onward and upward. Ramsey has moved on, I'm sure the rest of us can too

Just another Groundhog Day..................Ramsey style

[offiss]

Oh boy my kind of thread, nice to see guy's finally coming to thier senses, as I said when we released him we will regret dumping him for this season.

Whether or not he's doing anything for the Jets is irrelevant, he's better than anyone we have right now.

As far as Brunell outplaying Ramsey? What did Brunell ever do in pre season to set him aside from Ramsey other than praise from Gibbs? The same kind of praise we heard after the Colt game, and every other debacle for that matter, you would have thought Brunell set the field on fire the way some people carry on about his pre- seasons, he did nothing note worthy, and he did it under different circumstances in the pre-season as well. Ramsey was treated like a red headed step child by Gibbs. After watching and listening to Gibbs the last 2 plus seasons I would't trust a thing he say's, if you forget he was a 3 time SB champ, then he would be in the process of being torn apart by this board and every other one as well like a school of piranhas, Gibbs is getting by on reputation and reputation alone right now.

Say what you want about Ramsey and whether or not you think he can play, we all know Brunell can't, Ramsey deserved a real chance even if he eventually failed, I am not saying he needs to fail as much as Brunell, but he deserved a real shot, especially after he beat Brunell out the previous season, I guess we couldn't expect Ramsey to grow and get better with playing time? Unlike a proven winner in Brunell, I wonder what Gibbs big time gut feeling is telling him now?

Funny we keep hearing excuse after excuse for Campbell and his 6 different systems in 6 years, yet I didn't hear Gibbs cutting Ramsey that kind of slack, it's not like Ramsey wasen't thrown to the wolves. Yup everyone knows Ramsey will never pan out, funny I heard the same things about Drew Brees, he was in a bigger dog house than Ramsey. Further more almost everyone on this board was behind Ramsey 100% when Gibbs came back on board, and everyone was shocked that he went after Brunell, reason? we all saw Ramsey excel in SS system when he had more than 2 seconds to throw, and figured Gibbs would turn him into a pro-bowler, well the only thing Ramsey did wrong since then was not being the apple of Gibbs eye. Gibbs wanted Brunell and no one else regardless, and Ramsey was pushed aside. But turn about is fair play because Gibbs failure this go round is partly due to his inability to judge as well as utilize talent, and a delusion that Brunell is something more than what he is.

Well sunday we are going to recieve a royal A** kicking by the Boy's, hopefully Gibbs will wave to the fans in the parking lot, it is a long walk from the parking lot to thier seats in the stadium, that kind of loyalty, and effort to watch a butt shalacking of a 2-5 team shouldn't go unacknowleged.

[dmek25]

why? why? why? whomever started this thread should recieve a nice LIFETIME BAN

[Paintrain]

Is it February '06 again? I support a lifetime ban for whomever started this thread.

[Schneed10]

The Ramsey/Brunell QB controversy is in the past and has no bearing on Campbell/Brunell.

Pointless thread.

[Jason72]

I love the blind Ramsey supporters. They rant on and on about unfairness and how we ruined him. Where's the same outcry for Heath Shuler and Gus Frerotte and even Jay Schroeder whom once played great but lost something and could never get it back? Didn't we ruin these guys too by having the audacity to play them?

Anyone remember Warren Moon? Guy put up Hall of Fame numbers in the Run and Shoot or as Buddy Ryan called it, "the chuck and duck". If you can't handle getting hit and being shuffled in and out of the lineup then you are too fragile to be a QB in the NFL. In addition Ramsey holds the ball too long and has zero touch.

I would much rather have Campbell in there making mistakes than Ramsey, at least there would be hope for the future. The question is when do we get Campbell?

[MTK]

Next topic please.

[Hog1]

Maybe we could discuss THREAD LOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crat92]

Originally Posted by Jason72

I love the blind Ramsey supporters. They rant on and on about unfairness and how we ruined him. Where's the same outcry for Heath Shuler and Gus Frerotte and even Jay Schroeder whom once played great but lost something and could never get it back? Didn't we ruin these guys too by having the audacity to play them?

Anyone remember Warren Moon? Guy put up Hall of Fame numbers in the Run and Shoot or as Buddy Ryan called it, "the chuck and duck". If you can't handle getting hit and being shuffled in and out of the lineup then you are too fragile to be a QB in the NFL. In addition Ramsey holds the ball too long and has zero touch.

I would much rather have Campbell in there making mistakes than Ramsey, at least there would be hope for the future. The question is when do we get Campbell?

Warren Moon played more seasons NOT in the run n shoot than in it. That ain't the reason he's in the Hall. Greatest professional football QB ever. Over 70 thousand passing yards. I know he played in the CFL, but damn that's a lot of yards! Enough with this Bull shit, put in CAMPBELL DAMN IT!