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Old 11-13-2006, 09:05 AM   #1
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Re: Unfortunate perspective-We AREN'T who we thought we were.

The scariest thing of all - I've got no idea how to fix this mess.

A new QB (Campbell) might inject some downfield passing. But how to fix the D??

I think chemistry is a mess right now. That will happen when you bring in guys like Andre Carter who sucks, relegating emotional leader Renaldo Wynn to the bench. And when you bring in TJ Duckett and get your RBs all upset. And then when Duckett doesn't play, he gets pissed. And when you let Ryan Clark, a guy Sean Taylor got along with and trusted, leave for free agency and bring in Adam Archuleta who SUCKS and pay him more than Sean Taylor (not to mention every other safety in the league). I think the players are irked at some of these moves. I know I'd be, it's human nature.

But chemistry is only part of the problem. It will be a miracle if we make the playoffs next year, IMO. Someone's going to have to do some amazing teambuilding to get this team all on the same page by next season.
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The scariest thing of all - I've got no idea how to fix this mess.

A new QB (Campbell) might inject some downfield passing. But how to fix the D??

I think chemistry is a mess right now. That will happen when you bring in guys like Andre Carter who sucks, relegating emotional leader Renaldo Wynn to the bench. And when you bring in TJ Duckett and get your RBs all upset. And then when Duckett doesn't play, he gets pissed. And when you let Ryan Clark, a guy Sean Taylor got along with and trusted, leave for free agency and bring in Adam Archuleta who SUCKS and pay him more than Sean Taylor (not to mention every other safety in the league). I think the players are irked at some of these moves. I know I'd be, it's human nature.

But chemistry is only part of the problem. It will be a miracle if we make the playoffs next year, IMO. Someone's going to have to do some amazing teambuilding to get this team all on the same page by next season.
I saw a different defense personally. GW isn't doing the same blitzes as he did last year. Until Brunell gave the Eagles that gift, the defense was stepping it up against the best offense in the league. That play to Stollworth was basically it.
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:16 AM   #3
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I saw a different defense personally. GW isn't doing the same blitzes as he did last year. Until Brunell gave the Eagles that gift, the defense was stepping it up against the best offense in the league. That play to Stollworth was basically it.
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TMC you're usually such a solid observer of the game, but I got to ask you here, WTF are you talking about??

Westbrook ran for 113 yards on 22 carries (5.1 per carry). I don't care if a lot of it was in garbage time when the Birds were trying to kill the clock. If you're a good defense that plays with pride, you man up and you stop him, no matter what the score is. We got run on like nobody's business.

The 'Skins did hold McNabb to a low completion percentage. He was 12 for 26. And yes, that play to Stallworth was basically the extent of the passing game for the Eagles. But as has been stated around here by Matty before, you can't just take plays out of the equation. The big play is the biggest reason why our defense sucks. You can't give up the big play and be like oh well we stopped them the rest of the time. You still lose that way.
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TMC you're usually such a solid observer of the game, but I got to ask you here, WTF are you talking about??

Westbrook ran for 113 yards on 22 carries (5.1 per carry). I don't care if a lot of it was in garbage time when the Birds were trying to kill the clock. If you're a good defense that plays with pride, you man up and you stop him, no matter what the score is. We got run on like nobody's business.

The 'Skins did hold McNabb to a low completion percentage. He was 12 for 26. And yes, that play to Stallworth was basically the extent of the passing game for the Eagles. But as has been stated around here by Matty before, you can't just take plays out of the equation. The big play is the biggest reason why our defense sucks. You can't give up the big play and be like oh well we stopped them the rest of the time. You still lose that way.
That's without a doubt. But still, that's like us saying Brunell played great when he passes for two touchdowns when we're down by 30+. Not to give more credit than it's due, but in general the defense played "better". I'm missing the blitzes like last year because it seemed that when we dialup a blitz or two, we ACTUALLY created pressure, rather than giving McNabb a good 10 minutes to sit there and throw.
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That's without a doubt. But still, that's like us saying Brunell played great when he passes for two touchdowns when we're down by 30+. Not to give more credit than it's due, but in general the defense played "better". I'm missing the blitzes like last year because it seemed that when we dialup a blitz or two, we ACTUALLY created pressure, rather than giving McNabb a good 10 minutes to sit there and throw.
I'd agree with the blitzing issue. Priority one in the offseason has to be getting Gregg Williams whatever he needs in order to be comfortable with blitzing a lot more often.

For whatever reason, he's afraid of doing it this year. Is it the CBs? Is it the safety play? Or is he holding out hope that Daniels and Carter can do it on their own without a blitz?
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I'd agree with the blitzing issue. Priority one in the offseason has to be getting Gregg Williams whatever he needs in order to be comfortable with blitzing a lot more often.

For whatever reason, he's afraid of doing it this year. Is it the CBs? Is it the safety play? Or is he holding out hope that Daniels and Carter can do it on their own without a blitz?
It's almost like he forgot that Archuleta and Wright aren't on the field anymore.
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I'd agree with the blitzing issue. Priority one in the offseason has to be getting Gregg Williams whatever he needs in order to be comfortable with blitzing a lot more often.

For whatever reason, he's afraid of doing it this year. Is it the CBs? Is it the safety play? Or is he holding out hope that Daniels and Carter can do it on their own without a blitz?
Unfortunately, I think it's the biggest crapshoot in the draft: DE. I feel that we'll sign Nate Clements and instantly our secondary is improved, but we're going to HAVE to draft someone that can give us SOME KIND of pass rush.
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Unfortunately, I think it's the biggest crapshoot in the draft: DE. I feel that we'll sign Nate Clements and instantly our secondary is improved, but we're going to HAVE to draft someone that can give us SOME KIND of pass rush.
QB, DE, and WR are definately the biggest crapshoots. DEs are something like 50% 1st round bust rate (using a SMALL sample set, which could be skewed), and QBs and WRs are similar. still, i agree that that's probably the way to go.
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I'd agree with the blitzing issue. Priority one in the offseason has to be getting Gregg Williams whatever he needs in order to be comfortable with blitzing a lot more often.

For whatever reason, he's afraid of doing it this year. Is it the CBs? Is it the safety play? Or is he holding out hope that Daniels and Carter can do it on their own without a blitz?
One of the cornerstones behind GW schemes is having a pair of corners that can play tight and solid man to man which allows him to blitz agressively. Early on in the season with Springs down and Kenny "Not-So" Wright and Mike Rumph-Roasted filling in we get torched methodically because of inept coverage. And while I'm a big fan of Carlos Rodgers, when you give a receiver a 5 to 10 yd cushion for any reason, you're giving an opposing QB a free hot read every time we put a blitz on.
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That's without a doubt. But still, that's like us saying Brunell played great when he passes for two touchdowns when we're down by 30+. Not to give more credit than it's due, but in general the defense played "better". I'm missing the blitzes like last year because it seemed that when we dialup a blitz or two, we ACTUALLY created pressure, rather than giving McNabb a good 10 minutes to sit there and throw.
Besides the two quick strike plays, the defense did do a very good job when the Eagles got into our territory. However, besides not giving up the big play, the tackling IMO is horrible. I believe that is out of frustration though. You're finding players trying to hit more than to wrap up the ball carrier.
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I saw a different defense personally. GW isn't doing the same blitzes as he did last year. Until Brunell gave the Eagles that gift, the defense was stepping it up against the best offense in the league. That play to Stollworth was basically it.
yeah, the D played well in the 2nd quarter & also kept the iggles out of the end zone in the 2nd half, including a goal line stand.
I think the D is hitting its stride, watch for under 300 yds. by Tampa on sundaY. GW will call more blitzes as he's more confident in the coverage. Even if we miss the playoffs we're gonna beat some good teams.
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The scariest thing of all - I've got no idea how to fix this mess.

A new QB (Campbell) might inject some downfield passing. But how to fix the D??

I think chemistry is a mess right now. That will happen when you bring in guys like Andre Carter who sucks, relegating emotional leader Renaldo Wynn to the bench. And when you bring in TJ Duckett and get your RBs all upset. And then when Duckett doesn't play, he gets pissed. And when you let Ryan Clark, a guy Sean Taylor got along with and trusted, leave for free agency and bring in Adam Archuleta who SUCKS and pay him more than Sean Taylor (not to mention every other safety in the league). I think the players are irked at some of these moves. I know I'd be, it's human nature.

But chemistry is only part of the problem. It will be a miracle if we make the playoffs next year, IMO. Someone's going to have to do some amazing teambuilding to get this team all on the same page by next season.
i think you are right on the money. team chemistry means everything in this TEAM sport. i think our coaching staff under valued r clarks effect on sean taylor, and the secondary as a whole. the times wynn was on the field against philly, they just looked better and more enthused about playing. and as much as i hate to say it, maybe lavar the leader is missed. because lavar the player is definitely on the downside of his career. and can anyone tell me why mcintosh isnt playing? because watching holdman exist on the field is brutal. he NEVER gets involved in any game action
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