The Archuleta cap hit question.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by irish

Too bad the skins are not as good at evaluating players as they are at structuring contracts. Unfortunately this is what we have been reduced to as skins fan, complementing our great contract structures.

I think the tide is really turning, Irish.

I think us letting Dockery walk, getting rid of AA and that monster contract, bringing back Smooty and Omare S. for a reasonable deals. And let's not discount how we locked up Betts before he could hit the open market and break the bank. These things tell me we are pointing in a new direction.

There's no doubt we've had some misses on evaluting talent, but who hasn't? We've had some really good draft picks who are still around and some solid FA pickups. Wade is one of the first to jump out at me.

My main issue with the Skins is not who bring in, per se, but that we don't get as much bang for our buck like the premium franchises.

[Oakland Red]

I give most praise to Lovie Smith rather than the Redskins cap team. He could have made it much harder on us, but he was generous when we were in a bad negotiating position.

However, great job with the cap stats, Schneed. You've taken a load off my mind.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Oakland Red

I give most praise to Lovie Smith rather than the Redskins cap team. He could have made it much harder on us, but he was generous when we were in a bad negotiating position.

I'm sure Lovie made this move out of the goodness of his heart. LOL.

[Bill B]

Has anyone seen this as far as how we are treating AA's contract:

"Archuleta received a $5 million signing bonus last year, $4 million of which eventually will count against Washington's salary cap. It's believed the Redskins will use one of their June 1 exceptions so that Archuleta will count only $1.5 million against the cap this year, with the rest coming in 2008."

I thought the Skins were going to just eat the contract in 2007 so we get relief in 2008? Unless we are going to use the additional space in 2007 to sign free agents why not just get the dead cap hit out of the way in 2007?

Redskins trade Archuleta - Sports - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Has anyone seen this as far as how we are treating AA's contract:

"Archuleta received a $5 million signing bonus last year, $4 million of which eventually will count against Washington's salary cap. It's believed the Redskins will use one of their June 1 exceptions so that Archuleta will count only $1.5 million against the cap this year, with the rest coming in 2008."

I thought the Skins were going to just eat the contract in 2007 so we get relief in 2008? Unless we are going to use the additional space in 2007 to sign free agents why not just get the dead cap hit out of the way in 2007?

Redskins trade Archuleta*-*Sports*-*The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

Hmm. I thought the June 1 exception only applied to guys who you are releasing, not to guys you're trading. The whole reason the June 1 exception went into place was to allow players the opportunity to jump into the free agent pool earlier so they have a better shot at catching on with a team in a decent situation. But if you're traded, you don't really get a say in what situation you're headed to, so it kind of defeats the whole spirit of the June 1 Exception rule.

Either way, though, the Skins would have Archuleta count $1.5 million this year, and $2.5 million next year under the Times' scenario. Under La Canfora's scenario, he'd count $4 million this year, and 0 next year. Either way I'm not getting my panties in a bunch one way or another. It's kind of splitting hairs; either way it still means Archuleta doesn't crush us with a huge cap hit.

I am more inclined to think he counts $4 million this year and 0 next year, based on my understanding of the June 1 rule. But in the end, whatever.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If I can add one comment, absolutely genius move by the 'Skins.

- We cleared his contract off the 08 and 09 years, which helped immensely because our cap was getting heavy in those years.

- We got rid of a huge free agent mistake without taking a huge cap penalty.

- We actually got a 6th round pick for someone who is a complete bum in our system.

Setting up Archuleta's deal as $5 million guaranteed up front, and $5 million guaranteed one year later is what allowed us to make this move. If we had given him all $10 million up front, this move would have been impossible. Genius contract structuring by our front office, showing that they know how to plan for contingencies when going after free agents. It shows they actually put thought into what they're doing, rather than just running willy-nilly and buying up every player in sight.

Bravo, Danny, bravo.

I have to agree with this one as well. To clear up the AA contract and get a pick at the same time is genius. Remember everyone - a guy name Colston on the Saints was a 6th round pick so don't discount lower rounds picks - there are hidden gems if you can find them.

One question though - with getting rid of AA contract for 08 and beyond would it be resonable to assume that this is a make or break year for Brandon Llyod? I remember seeing many posts saying we could not get rid of both AA and Lloyd due to the cap hits - but it would seem to me that now that the Skins have cleared up AA and he is off the books after 07 if Brandon Llyod does not start playing up to his contract he will be gone after this year - correct?

[johnjaywilliams]

now we can draft that LUS safety

[skinsfan242]

Great move by the Skins, considering the circumstance. Not only that O. Stoutmire played really well here. Although the signing was bad, this was the best scernario we could have possibly had.

[MTK]

Portis isn't going anywhere for a variety of reasons. He's still a top back in this league, Gibbs loves him, and his cap hit would be tremendous at over $12M. Again, a retarded mock draft severely lacking any sense of reality.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Portis isn't going anywhere for a variety of reasons. He's still a top back in this league, Gibbs loves him, and his cap hit would be tremendous at over $12M. Again, a retarded mock draft severely lacking any sense of reality.

Don't forget his trade value is diminished because of his shoulder injury as well. It just wouldn't make sense to ditch an elite player without some serious reciprocity.

Anyone that suggests this is just flirting with possibility. Sure it could happen, but in all likely hood, it wont. Mock drafts are pointless.

[Big C]

man glad to finally find out the cap ramifications. seems like a pretty good job

[MTK]

Yeah the cap really does tell the whole story sometimes. I think we have the best capologists around, great job as usual guys.

[Oakland Red]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/reds...sense.html#more

Reading Jason LaCanfora's blog post, it seems like he is saying that we are responsible for the cap hit this year, even if Chicago is picking up the $5 million dollar payment.

So would this mean, if he is right, that it is like we cut him?

[MTK]

I wouldn't trust what the Times reports, they're off base quite a bit.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I wouldn't trust what the Times reports, they're off base quite a bit.

Dan Daly at the Times is the worst, they are all Skins haters over there!

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