Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season!

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I'm not going to try to defend anything Pacman Jones has done. However, I think his conduct is an indictment of the way young athletes are treated throughout their lives. Pacman's problems are not new...he was getting into trouble at WVU. Everyone knew it then, he has a problem. He can't stay outta trouble. No one ever did anything about it at West Virginia, all they did was enable him. All so they could make their millions of dollars by exploiting their players, but that's another topic. Pacman had trouble with the law at WVU and everyone around the university did everything they could to keep him on the field so they could make money. All he's ever learned is that as long as he performs on the field, his problems will go away off of it. As much as he made his own decisions, I feel sorry for a lot of the kids who grow up without the advantages most of the people judging them have enjoyed. Especially since, if they didn't have a father, the only males they really see are their coaches and they're too busy trying to figure out how to keep him on the field, rather than out of trouble. It's a little disturbing. I'm not condoning any of Pacman's actions, but I think there's a problem with this society, just as much as with him.

Another thought, Henry and Jones were both disciplinary problems in college. They also went to the same college, West Virginia. Why isn't Rich Rodriguez held accountable in any way? He did nothing about this when they were there. Where the hell was he? He just made sure they kept making the university money by taking them to a bowl game, it's bullshit.

Somehow, I don't think taking a troubled kid and making him a millionaire is the best way to solve people's problems. People should have seen this coming. I feel sorry for Pacman Jones.

This is exactly why the athletes are the way they are. Or any troubles kids now. people want to point the blaim in so many different directions instead of where they belong. Pacman and Henry are adults. They know whats right and whats wrong. carrying weed, beating up strippers and shooting guns, going 100 MPH while drinking!! any adult should know those are things that will get you in trouble. I dont feel sorry or believe this blaim the environment they lived in crap. They used their athletic gifts to get out of those situations. Now, they have all the money in the world and end up making the same stupid mistakes they made before. you have all the money in the world, that doesn't give you a pass to act like the biggest dumb ass in the world. These guys should pay for their crimes. Too many athletes get off with a slap on the wrist. If pacman is convicted of all the charges from the Vegas thing, being suspended from the NFL for 1 year will look like nothing compared to the jail time he will face. People need to stop making excuses for these idiots and hold them accountable for their actions. Do you think if any of us had all these run ins with the cops we would be sitting here typing on the Warpath.net?? HELL NO! we would be in jail or where ever. At somepoint when do they get treated as a person.. a normal person like everyone else in the country.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I'm not going to try to defend anything Pacman Jones has done. However, I think his conduct is an indictment of the way young athletes are treated throughout their lives. Pacman's problems are not new...he was getting into trouble at WVU. Everyone knew it then, he has a problem. He can't stay outta trouble. No one ever did anything about it at West Virginia, all they did was enable him. All so they could make their millions of dollars by exploiting their players, but that's another topic. Pacman had trouble with the law at WVU and everyone around the university did everything they could to keep him on the field so they could make money. All he's ever learned is that as long as he performs on the field, his problems will go away off of it. As much as he made his own decisions, I feel sorry for a lot of the kids who grow up without the advantages most of the people judging them have enjoyed. Especially since, if they didn't have a father, the only males they really see are their coaches and they're too busy trying to figure out how to keep him on the field, rather than out of trouble. It's a little disturbing. I'm not condoning any of Pacman's actions, but I think there's a problem with this society, just as much as with him.

Another thought, Henry and Jones were both disciplinary problems in college. They also went to the same college, West Virginia. Why isn't Rich Rodriguez held accountable in any way? He did nothing about this when they were there. Where the hell was he? He just made sure they kept making the university money by taking them to a bowl game, it's bullshit.

Somehow, I don't think taking a troubled kid and making him a millionaire is the best way to solve people's problems. People should have seen this coming. I feel sorry for Pacman Jones.

I don't feel sorry for that clown at all. He has a chance to make more $ than most people will make in 100 lifetimes. With that comes a certain responsibility. Didn't this guy attend the rookie symposium? sp? At some point you have to learn on your own how to be a man.

I didn't grow up w/ a father around and I had common sense not to hang out with people who carry guns. THAT'S COMMON SENSE!!! Pacman has no common sense and now he has to live with his punishment.

[12thMan]

Deion should open a crisis hotline, because anytime T.O. or whomever gets in hot water he's right there defending and making excuses.

These are grown ass men for crying out loud!

[dmek25]

the big question is, will this hold up against the union?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dmek25

the big question is, will this hold up against the union?

I think the union has to be careful with this and let it ride. They would certainly be walking a very, very fine line with trying to defend Pac on this one. Furthermore, in doing so they would send the wrong message and might fall out of favor with the Commish.

Upshaw and Co. should stay away from this one.

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think the union has to be careful with this and let it ride. They would certainly be walking a very, very fine line with trying to defend Pac on this one. Furthermore, in doing so they would send the wrong message and might fall out of favor with the Commish.

Upshaw and Co. should stay away from this one.

Dude. Who do you work for? I think any team should be able to terminate a player's contract based on the severity of his off-the-field play. Terminating a contract in addition to say, a 8-game suspension, gives the player a fair opportunity to continue his career if another club is interested in taking that risk. A year long suspension just puts a player's livelihood in limbo for too long.

[FRPLG]

How the union handles this is goign to be interesting. There are a lot of players who are going to applaud this. I would guess a majority of them think it is pretty fair. The question is does the union appeal this just because they can and usually would. I hope not. I hope Upshaw comes out and says "We are diligent in the protection of our players and their rights but the players must be as diligent in the protection of the integrity of this game. Both of these players have betrayed the trust of their team, fellow players, union and league and we will let them be the example by which other players should take notice. Going forward I hope there is no need for such drastic suspensions as these players are clearly the exdeption and not the rule."

[GoSkins!]

Where is my lawyer!!! How dare they ask a guy to act professional on his own time. It's not like kids watch football or look up to these guys or emulate them.

I guess now he will have to work for T.O. as a housekeeper or something so that he can learn how to behave badly while still receiving a check.

[FRPLG]

I wonder how involved Goodell has gotten other players and the union in this decision. I know he has put together a committee of current players on this stuff. Our man James Thrash and former man Tory Vincent are two of maybe 8 or so guys who I guess will offer a player's perspective on stuff like this.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Bravo, Goodell, bravo.

[mlmpetert]

I dont really agree with Chris Henry, 8 games is a lot

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I dont really agree with Chris Henry, 8 games is a lot

The guy has been arrested like 6 times(or more) in less than two years.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The guy has been arrested like 6 times(or more) in less than two years.

He got just what he deserved!

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I dont really agree with Chris Henry, 8 games is a lot

Are you kidding?!?!
Chris Henry has been arrested multiple times for the same types of offenses.
How many times do you have to touch a hot stove before you realize that you shouldn't touch it anymore?

[dmek25]

to play devils advocate( i really think Jones deserves his punishment) what grounds does the NFL have for the suspension? there were no policies in place when all the thuggery had taken place