Does anyone consider Irving Fryar a Redskin

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by Oakland Red

Vince I'm sure had forgotten his time with the Packers by early in his first preseason with the Redskins. No one serious about football still attaches Lombardi to the Green Bay Packers.

I mean, a team from a small working class town in Wisconsin - named after meat packers? That, compared to team named after the proud first Americans, playing in our nation's capital?

If Vince had run into Bart Starr in the street, he would have smiled, and shook his hand, I am sure. But then he would have turned away and rolled his eyes, and thought, "What an embarassment this so called "Starr quarterback" is. Here I am, coach of the Washington Redskins, and he comes up to me, like I am supposed to be someone who cares who he is."

Playing in snowy Wisconsin must have seemed like a dream at that point. Vince was now coaching the Redskins.

Yes, he had won the first two Super Bowls, but they weren't even called Super Bowls then. He led the Redskins to their first winning season in a long time, surely his most proud accomplishment.

lol..... well, there are times you just have to walk away....